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Post #80953

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Shimraa
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Myths
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8-Dec-2004, 2:41 PM
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Do you have any idea how many scientific laws have to be broken to allow the theory of evolution to float? Genetic mutations have never been observed to be beneficial. They're neutral at best, or they just loose the genetic information already present. Now Darwin tried to explain this with what he called "survival of the fittest". He theorised that the bad genetic mutations would die out and only the beneficial ones would live on. How come we haven't observed this? Usually when a genetic mutation occurs, good or bad, it eventually weeds its way through the entire species. If that observation is true, as it appears to be, than it means much more harm than good occurs from mutations, and so we shouldn't expect good results to flow.


DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LAWS CREATIONISM HAS BROKEN. actually it has been observed. if you look at man different diseases you can clearly see that is has happened. for example many forms of lucemia(Sp) are not resistant to Penicillin, this occured because some forms of the disease in the 1940s were resistant to the anti biotic because of a simple mutation. this mutation aloud it to survive and so it evolved. there are many more examples of this look at HIV do you know why we cant cure it or create a vaccience for it, its cus the body virus mutates so much. it has been shown many times that evolution occurs. here is a another example for you. look at the cattle industery do you know why we have some cows that produce milk like mad, its because since the 1700sman has been selectively breeding so the cow has evolved to produce more milk. you say harm can come, i say why, a bad mutation will not travel throught out the species because the speciman that has it will not be able to breed as well due to its disavantage.

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Nevertheless, even if the theoretical origin of life does assemble itself, AND survive (I won't bother detailing the reasons why survival is blatantly impossible) - how is it going to replicate? Can it reproduce? No it can't. It can't grow, it can't create more-cells it can just live and sustain itself and that's about it. The theory of evolution requires reproduction - or it couldn't occur. So how did THAT evolve? Simply stated, it couldn't have. But let's say it did, and you've got your single-cell bacterium replicating itself, and re-arranging its genetic code to adapt to new environments and alike. Of course, it has to be able to adapt very quickly to climate changes as the Earth cools, but apparently it did. Now it's time to evolve into a higher form of life. Perhaps one where reproduction occurs between two different sex's of the same species. How is it going to do this? I mean it's happily been reproducing asexually, how is it going to rearrange its code to allow reproduction to occur between two different specimens of the species? What a load of rubbish!


ok now up till this point we have been keep it libral but that last meg really got on my nerves because you jsut made it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. I always try to be nice and i usually never mock creationism but this post is an execption. first of to me i find it rubbish that just out of no where the universe was jsut made pop out of nowhere just as it is today. also find it rubbish that the world was suppositedly created in 7 days. i also find it rubbish that just by saying something exists it exsists. now that just about sums up creationism. i know your not going to find what i jsut said very nice and your probably going to get mad. well if you feel that way then youll understand my feelings towards your post. now it is apparent that you need to learn some bio cus you clearly do not know shit. Bactria DO repoduce asexually. infact 90% of all species reproduce asexually. its called mitosis and it also is how you grow bigger. cells in you bones undergo mitosis so that you can grow bigger. infact most of time when ever a cell repoduces it will undergo mitosis. the only time your see reproducing that combines two different DNAs is when two cells undergo meiosis. now if you want to learn the details go read more then just books that are religously bias. another thing you should know is that it can be clearly seen how life evolved from reproducing asexually to sexually if you do a little bit of research. hell i learned all of this in grade 11 bio. seriously man i not going to go through any more of this shit but you should know what you jsut said in that quote is WRONG just strait up. and i am not even going to debate you until you go learn something about what you are talking about. what your last quote jsut proved was that you dont know anything about what your talkign about instead you hear bits and peices of things from people. like that the earth is 4.3 billion years old or that the universe is thought to be 12 billion years old and you say thats not true, it cant, be cus you cant see it being true. let me tell you something jsut cus you dont see it happening doesnt mean that it doesnt, all it means is that you are near sighted. next time your goign to call soemthing rubbish read a book or learn a fact before you say it wrong BEFORE you speak.

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But apparently it happened. Okay sure, why not? Maybe now it's simple useless floating around isn't doing much good anymore, and because it evolved into having different sex's it now needs to move around freely at will (or, it needs to move around freely at will because it intends to create different sex's). What does it need first? A Brain? A Heart? A Central Nervous System? Veins? Arteries? Blood? Kidney? Lungs? Stomach? Acid? Skin maybe? Which is it going to start with? If it evolved a heart, than it's a useless organ that's just taking up valuable space and resources. Darwin's theory of the fittest claims it dies out. What about blood? Well that's useless too without anything to use it with. So you see, life is so complex that it can't be reduced step-by-step. Heck we can't design cameras as advanced as the human eye. Sure we can magnify it, but that's about it. The brain stores information more reliably, and more solidly than any form of data-storage we've designed.


again go read a book, go take a course on evolution and youll learn how evolution explains those things. in fact look at forms of life that exsist today. did you know that there are types of single cell organism that have rudimetary eyes. any forms of algae have this so that they know where light is and so they can go towards it.