Do you believe my changes amount to censorship?
Do you believe my changes are the product of, or result in inceasing or descreasing Capitalism?
Do you believe my changes have anything to do with EULA?
Do you believe my changes have anything to do with contractual law?
Do you believe my changes promote Australia over America? (I'd love to hear Laserman weigh in on this one.)
So far as I can see, your answers are going to be "no". Insofar as agreeing the tranfers shouldn't be altered, I know you agree with him, and that's fine, but I made in clear in my thread MONTHS AGO that I was planning on an "original" transfer as well. Whatever made you guys think I was only capable (legally or morally) of making only one transfer is beyond me.
"No, everything I stated was true."
No. It's all bullcrap and opinion. You know nothing of my stance or beliefs on EULA or contractual law, and yet here you are, telling everyone about who I am. Considering how many of your PMs I've ignored in the past, how the hell can you know these things?
"Their argument crumbles anyway. MBJ and Zion both agree that 1. you can't notice the changes, and 2. they don't matter. They seem to use this argument in the sense that we should therefore accept the changes. But in doing so it raises two counter questions. 1. if you can't notice the changes, why put them there? and 2. if they don't matter than why does it matter so much to have them edited?
This, however, is a good point, and one that MBJ and Zion have not presented an argument against. " First of all, I don't have to satisfy anyone's answers in regards to my transfer (you know, that whole "personal rights" thing you were talking about - despite the fact you keep insisting I don't have the right to make these changes to begin with.)
Secondly, just to make everything nice and simple and clear - WHEN YOU SPEND A MONTH WORKING ON THESE FILMS FRAME BY FRAME (you know, actually putting time and effort into the best transfer possible? Oh no, you two wouldn't know JACK about that...my bad.
), THESE LITTLE THINGS TEND TO STICK OUT. SINCE COMBUSTION MAKES SUCH CORRECTIONS NICE AND EASY, I DECIDED TO TRY IT OUT ON THESE SCENES. GUESS WHAT? IT WORKS GREAT!
See....at no point was I thinking about censorship, EULA, contractual law, or the superiority of America over Australia. I JUST DID IT BECAUSE I COULD. If Daniel really wants to bitch about it, he can complain to Laserman, a fellow Australian, for giving me the software in the first place.
In fact, Laserman, a fellow Australian. had no problem with the changes!?! According to you, this should be impossible. Of course, this presumes your opinion is "true", which of course, it isn't. In fact, he, like many others, have told you to make your own transfer, and your only response is "That's what Lucas would say", so apparently anyone who makes their own transfer is a dirty capitalistic American - too bad for Dr. Gonzo, TR47, ISOMIX, moth3r, etc. and anyone else who makes their own transfer.
Of course, you'll probably say something along the lines of "Theirs is like Lucas'", to which I would respond that theirs are also made by different versions of the various NTSC LDs, which you repeatedly call inferior to the PAL versions. Since they obviously aren't using the best version possible, then you should call them out on their lack of love in regards to making the truest version possible. Also, since you, yourself live in PAL land, YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN "LUCAS-PERFECT" TRANSFER!
Speaking of which, Lucas had to become quite the capitalist in order to fund and create the OT to begin with. Capitalism made these films that you love so much, and don't want changed! Any comment on that disparity?
"You seem to be of the opinion that if your signature is on a contract, then it doesn't matter if you can understand it - you are bound by it [as is evident by calling what I said bullcrap]. This does not help your case, but it does help mine.)"
Take some time to read through this thread - not one person accepts your "case". ONE!
"SO IS MAKING COPIES OF THE LD'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC! (No shit!)
When the hell are you going to address this simple point? (When did I claim it was my right?)
you need to stop accusing everyone else of breaking the law. (As we all know, I didn't accuse you I merely pointed out it is not your right as you claimed it to be.)"
First of all, if you are telling someone they are doing something illegal, you are telling them that they are breaking the law. Those things are kinda synonymous, at least in American.
Secondly, let me point out the retardness of your stance. You and I are both speeding down the highway (we both help distribute LD copies). You look over at me in my car and start screaming at me because I am driving without a seatbelt (making changes in my transfer). You claim that, in a legal sense, it's a greater offense to make these changes than the original speeding (or, at least, you continue to focus on the changes, and ignore the speeding issue altogether.) You know what the cops are going to notice first? THE SPEEDING (distributing LD copies.)
[A Few Good Men] "Thank you for playing "Should We or Should-We-Not Follow the Advice of the Galacticly Stupid". [/A Few Good Men]
"(Capitalism. "If I was to censor the media you wouldn't know because I am the government."
Bwah-ha-ha-ha - Capitalism: An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
You don't even know what the Hell capitalism (or even censorship) really is, AND THESE ARE THE MAJOR BASIS OF YOUR ARGUMENT. Just goes to show the "worth" of your argument.
"I move over for no one, I can do whatever I want because I am in control."
You've not budged either, and YES, I AM in control of my transfer. Sucks to be you.
"(Who are you trying to convince? Me?"
...as is everyone else who has responded in this thread. So much for my changes being such an earth-shattering affront to SW fans everywhere. LOL!
"The silent voices? The undecided?"
According to you, they don't matter....you know, "the number you've got hanging out of your butt.", or at least wish you did in this thread. Of course, there were these statements...
Seems to me you are trying really hard to make a consensus here. Too bad it's not working (for you, at least.)
"Whether or not people know is irrelevant - it's the chance they have to know."
"You cannot sign something you don't understand and be legally binded to it."
This, however, is a good point, and one that MBJ and Zion have not presented an argument against. " First of all, I don't have to satisfy anyone's answers in regards to my transfer (you know, that whole "personal rights" thing you were talking about - despite the fact you keep insisting I don't have the right to make these changes to begin with.)
Secondly, just to make everything nice and simple and clear - WHEN YOU SPEND A MONTH WORKING ON THESE FILMS FRAME BY FRAME (you know, actually putting time and effort into the best transfer possible? Oh no, you two wouldn't know JACK about that...my bad.
), THESE LITTLE THINGS TEND TO STICK OUT. SINCE COMBUSTION MAKES SUCH CORRECTIONS NICE AND EASY, I DECIDED TO TRY IT OUT ON THESE SCENES. GUESS WHAT? IT WORKS GREAT!See....at no point was I thinking about censorship, EULA, contractual law, or the superiority of America over Australia. I JUST DID IT BECAUSE I COULD. If Daniel really wants to bitch about it, he can complain to Laserman, a fellow Australian, for giving me the software in the first place.
In fact, Laserman, a fellow Australian. had no problem with the changes!?! According to you, this should be impossible. Of course, this presumes your opinion is "true", which of course, it isn't. In fact, he, like many others, have told you to make your own transfer, and your only response is "That's what Lucas would say", so apparently anyone who makes their own transfer is a dirty capitalistic American - too bad for Dr. Gonzo, TR47, ISOMIX, moth3r, etc. and anyone else who makes their own transfer.
Of course, you'll probably say something along the lines of "Theirs is like Lucas'", to which I would respond that theirs are also made by different versions of the various NTSC LDs, which you repeatedly call inferior to the PAL versions. Since they obviously aren't using the best version possible, then you should call them out on their lack of love in regards to making the truest version possible. Also, since you, yourself live in PAL land, YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN "LUCAS-PERFECT" TRANSFER!
Speaking of which, Lucas had to become quite the capitalist in order to fund and create the OT to begin with. Capitalism made these films that you love so much, and don't want changed! Any comment on that disparity?
"You seem to be of the opinion that if your signature is on a contract, then it doesn't matter if you can understand it - you are bound by it [as is evident by calling what I said bullcrap]. This does not help your case, but it does help mine.)"
Take some time to read through this thread - not one person accepts your "case". ONE!
"SO IS MAKING COPIES OF THE LD'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC! (No shit!)
When the hell are you going to address this simple point? (When did I claim it was my right?)
you need to stop accusing everyone else of breaking the law. (As we all know, I didn't accuse you I merely pointed out it is not your right as you claimed it to be.)"
First of all, if you are telling someone they are doing something illegal, you are telling them that they are breaking the law. Those things are kinda synonymous, at least in American.
Secondly, let me point out the retardness of your stance. You and I are both speeding down the highway (we both help distribute LD copies). You look over at me in my car and start screaming at me because I am driving without a seatbelt (making changes in my transfer). You claim that, in a legal sense, it's a greater offense to make these changes than the original speeding (or, at least, you continue to focus on the changes, and ignore the speeding issue altogether.) You know what the cops are going to notice first? THE SPEEDING (distributing LD copies.)
[A Few Good Men] "Thank you for playing "Should We or Should-We-Not Follow the Advice of the Galacticly Stupid". [/A Few Good Men]
"(Capitalism. "If I was to censor the media you wouldn't know because I am the government."
Bwah-ha-ha-ha - Capitalism: An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
You don't even know what the Hell capitalism (or even censorship) really is, AND THESE ARE THE MAJOR BASIS OF YOUR ARGUMENT. Just goes to show the "worth" of your argument.
"I move over for no one, I can do whatever I want because I am in control."
You've not budged either, and YES, I AM in control of my transfer. Sucks to be you.
"(Who are you trying to convince? Me?"
...as is everyone else who has responded in this thread. So much for my changes being such an earth-shattering affront to SW fans everywhere. LOL!
"The silent voices? The undecided?"
According to you, they don't matter....you know, "the number you've got hanging out of your butt.", or at least wish you did in this thread. Of course, there were these statements...
"S64, i continue to agree with you."
"so we're all in the same boat there."
"so we're all in the same boat there."
Seems to me you are trying really hard to make a consensus here. Too bad it's not working (for you, at least.)
"Whether or not people know is irrelevant - it's the chance they have to know."
"You cannot sign something you don't understand and be legally binded to it."
According to you, "knowing" is relevant.
"but I'm not attacking its popularity"
Based on the positive responses I've recieved, you are.
"What a capitalistic statement."
See above about your severe lack of knowledge considering this term. As you said, "knowing" is relevant.
"Skeg, I don't see how making comments to American culture is wrong. For instance, America is the fattest nation in the world with 29% of people overweight."
Too bad it has nothing to do with SW LD's, but since you've clearly lost that argument, it's obviously time for you to find something else to poke holes in. LOL! Now, we've simply narrowed it down to "MeBeJedi made changes -> he's an American -> America is bad -> Americans are bad -> MeBeJedi's changes are bad."
So, tell me, skeg64 - are you still in agreement with DanielB?
"That's what I put to you MeBeJedi. Instead of counting the number of people who tell you this, decide for yourself are you going to listen to what I have to say?"
Why should I listen to you over them? Isn't the fact that I am listening to them go against this "My way or the highway" belief you have? No one else has a problem with this anywhere near the same extent as you. Why should I pay attention to the extreme fringe (and a racist one at that?) Why should I change my mind for you, when you have utter contempt for Americans as a whole? (Ironic coming from someone whose country started as a penal colony.
)Case in point: "I cannot stress this enough: He lies because he believes it is his right."
Futhermore, why would someone who claims to believe in "personal rights" have a problem with someone else exercising their own "personal right". I guess their rights end where yours begin? LOL!
"The capitalistic person believes it is his right to lie."
The way you lied about my stance on EULA? Did Laserman lie when he complimented my work?
"he's grown up in a capatalistic society that have forced their views on him. But he can rise above it."
You are so far gone, it's not even funny anymore. BTW, are you also accusing everyone else in this thread who agrees with me as lying without knowing about it? Does this apply to Laserman as well?