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kk650
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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21-Oct-2015, 3:11 PM

Anchorhead said:

kk650 said:

I haven't been following all the rumours but has anybody considered that Rey and Kylo Ren might be brother and sister, perhaps even twins to mirror Luke and Leia from the Original Trilogy? The way the positions of their heads are so similar and facing in the same direction in the poster, while Finn is facing in the other direction, and the way their weapons intermesh suggest that there could be a special connection between the two characters. Could Vader perhaps be his grandfather, which would explain even more his reverence of him?

 Certainly is within the realm of possibility.  Rey & Ren - doesn't take much of a stretch to make that connection.  That sort of relation wouldn't bother me too much.  Related to Vader would be a drag though.  Your idea of why he may be so enamored with him does makes sense. 

I'm just not a fan of Vader.  Didn't find him interesting in 1977, really don't find him interesting now.  He's never been anything other than one-dimensional.

I agree that Vader has never been particularly three dimensional character but to be a great villain you don't really have to be IMHO, you just have to be menacing and have real presence on screen and I think Vader has both by the bucketload in the Original Trilogy, which is what makes him one on the greatest villains ever for most people. It also helps that he's got those fantastic one liners like 'Apology accepted, Captain Needa'. The best villains need those as well haha Gary Oldman in Leon is one dimensional as well but that doesn't stop him being one of my favourite villains. He also has some fantastic one liners.

I personally have no problem with Vader being used as a motivating force for any of the characters, so long as they don't resurrect him or converse with him as a force ghost, his character arc is finished and his character/hayden christensen has no place in the new trilogy IMHO