Bingowings said:

Ridley Scott is still a strong visual director but he allowed himself to be associated with a script mangled to death by Lindelof.

I like Super8 and Cloverfield but his first Star Trek is as bad/good as any TNG movie and the second one is truly painful in places. He didn't write the screenplay but he allowed himself to be closely associated with it. He is allowing himself to be closely associated with TFA.

See... unpumpable :-D

I still want to be wrong.

I would agree with all that. There are parts of Into Darkness where I sort of glazed-over out of disinterest. I'd still take it over the last two TNGs any day.

I think you'll be wrong. But in a good way. ;-)