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Post #791096

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twister111
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Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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28-Sep-2015, 10:24 PM


RicOlie_2 said:One reason women can't be priests is that priests act in the person of Christ. This includes representing Christ himself, in the sacrifice of the Mass, in confession, etc. God is masculine in nature, especially in the form of Jesus. Priests representing him must therefore be male in order to properly stand in for him.

RicOlie_2 said:It's tough for me to explain, without spending hours and hours on it. But it is readily apparent that God made men and women differently, and not just physically. It isn't just our bodies that are different, but our souls as well.
It's arguably blasphemy to state this you realize this right? It states clearly in Galatians that
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Course you could talk about the scripture in Timothy and Corinthians about the male authority over a woman and how she shouldn't teach. However it's clearly in reference to a married woman each time. In the hebrew text it even uses the words for husband and wife in Timothy it's just that those words can also mean woman and man. But in each instance it makes much more sense for it to mean a married woman since it talks of her husband in Corinthians and in Timothy it states that she can be saved from having taken authority by bearing children. Which would only make sense if she were already married otherwise it's the bible sanctioning children out of wedlock which is actually blasphemy. Further the spiritual order of having a man as a woman's "head" only makes sense if she is married. Additionally the chapter in Corinthians is mainly talking about the unknown tongues. In context it's arguable it's just saying that women shouldn't teach on unknown tongues.

(Edit) Also it's arguable that it's just her husband that she shouldn't usurp authority over/teach not all men. As in each instance in Corinthians and Timothy it mentions her husband for whom she should turn to. (Edit)

Additionally:

RicOlie_2 said: Or, a person might want to become a priest to escape the responsibilities of family life or life in the "real world," which is also a faulty motive.

The command to "come out of the world" is biblical tho. If priests are to represent Jesus Christ it's blasphemy that they don't come out of the world. The only reason they shouldn't is to retain a job that pays money to support their family should they have one.
From John:
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
From Corinthians:
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Seems to me that the whole "priest" position is built on a blasphemous foundation only intended to make men feel special and using Jesus as an excuse. Ultimately you could say that married women can't become priests because they'd be spiritually subservient to their husbands and Jesus is in authority over all men. However there's no reason I see that a single woman couldn't fulfill a priest position should she fulfill the other needed requirements. Though it's a position that seems held up by blasphemy anyways so it's really silly to exclude women on the blasphemous basis that a woman couldn't represent Jesus.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

If you'd like to explain how

RicOlie_2 said:2. Because men tend to have a harder time connecting with their Faith, it helps to have an important and special role for them that doesn't make them feel that religion is for women. This sounds silly when summed up like this, but it comes down to the way men and women differ.

it's a biblical reason to exclude women from representing Jesus feel free to thanks.

Tho I will say that it's odd to have a position in the church specifically so that men don't feel like religion is for women.... It's like stating that this religion isn't for women at all so go away.

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