Frank your Majesty said:

So Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness never happened?

Also, Mission Impossible 3 and Super 8 have a pretty clear definition of who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.

uggg ... I'm a SWs guy, definitely not a trekie. Haven't even seen those trek films. (probably never will)

I've actually not seen super 8 either, and have become bored with the M.I. series. (which I definitely wouldn't call classics in any sense) So I guess I can't comment on any of your examples.