Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 155

Wonder why the Finn action figures don't include a blue lightsaber?

That's why I sometimes wish Lucas had stuck with his original idea to make all lightsabers white (or red, if you're going by the original draft). It's no secret that I love lightsaber colour diversity, but I'd prefer one-colour uniformity over the cliched nonsense established in the PT.

You guys are really anal about things. So far there have been blue & green for the Jedi (Mace Windu the only seen exception with the purple) and Sith or darksiders have red. I've never seen an orange or yellow lightsaber in the films. I would think most people would hate all the sabers just being plain white. I think the vast majority of the SW fanbase is with me on this and casual fans in general. What makes it cliched to have differing colors of lightsabers? It was already seen with Luke having blue and green and Vader having red in the originals. What does the color of a lightsaber have to do with writing?

Sevb32 said:

You guys are really anal about things. So far there have been blue & green for the Jedi (Mace Windu the only seen exception with the purple) and Sith or darksiders have red. I've never seen an orange or yellow lightsaber in the films.

I've seen orange, yellow, and many different colours & shades for lightsabers in the EU. You'll pardon me if I became taken with them and feel the films should have eventually gone on to adopt them.

I would think most people would hate all the sabers just being plain white.

That's like saying film-going audiences prior to the '30s would have hated silent films. You can't hate something if you've never known any alternatives.

I think the vast majority of the SW fanbase is with me on this and casual fans in general.

So, we of the minority should just throw out our personal thoughts, feelings, and preferences and conform to the crowd, right? 

What makes it cliched to have differing colors of lightsabers?

Red for villains and blue (and green) for heroes is what's cliched. Frankly, it's a cliche I'm sick and tired of and have been for some time, now (The same goes with villains wearing black and being ugly, heroes wearing white and being beautiful, etc.).

It was already seen with Luke having blue and green and Vader having red in the originals.

Let's say someone makes a film, or a trilogy of films, which takes place on a post-apocalyptic Earth where the vast majority of the human race was been wiped out, leaving only three survivors, two of which are blonde with the third being a redhead; we never see any other humans at all through this entire trilogy -- not in flashbacks, not in background photos, drawings, or paintings -- none whatsoever.

Now, let's say that following this trilogy, the filmmaker(s) decide to make prequels or sequels to it, ones with a far larger cast of characters in them. Do you assume all these extra characters are going to be blondes and redheads like the characters in the original trilogy, or do you think that people with black and brown hair might exist in this world, too?

What does the color of a lightsaber have to do with writing?

Nothing, really. Some people like variety in their visuals, though, just like they like variety in their food, their drink, their music, their clothes, etc.

Right and it's also nobody would hate the Special Editions if they were the first ones shown to people. You can't hate something if you've never known any alternatives.

Why change all these to white now? Geez. So you are lobbying to retro change all lightsabers to white, simply because  it's cliched.  Cliches aren't always a bad thing either. Let's make Vader's suir all white while we're at it. Goes against villains in black cliche. Let's make the light side evil and the dark side good.

Just to clarify. There's no problem with teal/blue and orange. The problem is the over used of that colour scheme in virtually all modern films. It's a phase colourists and directors are going through. It will pass and everything made now will age very badly.

jeez.

New leak of Maz Kanata concept art. 

http://indierevolver.com/2015/08/16/thank-you-all/#jp-carousel-10848

Is that a lightsaber crystal?

Sevb32 said:

Why change all these to white now? Geez. So you are lobbying to retro change all lightsabers to white, simply because  it's cliched.

SilverWook wants this discussion discontinued here, so I'll just say this: Your comprehension of what I posted is real poor. 

Tobar said:

Eh, I wouldn't get your hopes up. They recently started to expand on Kaiburr crystals in the canon. They've become pretty much just lightsaber crystals. In fact, the Death Stars actually use Kaiburr crystals to generate their blasts.

 I suppose they could still recycle the original concept and give it a different name, though.

Anchorhead said:

John Doom said:

Back on topic, was it already confirmed that the two protagonists are related to the Skywalkers? I'd like totally new main characters.

 Without last names given to some of them, it's just assumed they are related (unless I've missed a leak or announcement).

I'd like unrelated characters as well.  However, considering we're just coming out of 15 years of indiscriminate story shrinking, a single familial relation is at least a step in the right direction. 

 Kylo Ren is apparently related to someone, too.  There was a rumor last year (?) that he is the son of Han and Leia.

unamochilla2 said:

Anchorhead said:

John Doom said:

Back on topic, was it already confirmed that the two protagonists are related to the Skywalkers? I'd like totally new main characters.

 Without last names given to some of them, it's just assumed they are related (unless I've missed a leak or announcement).

I'd like unrelated characters as well.  However, considering we're just coming out of 15 years of indiscriminate story shrinking, a single familial relation is at least a step in the right direction. 

 Kylo Ren is apparently related to someone, too.  There was a rumor last year (?) that he is the son of Han and Leia.

 I've also heard someone say that, since we know this is at least partially a name he made for himself later in life, it is possible that Kylo = sKYwalker + soLO. Little bit of a stretch, but possible.

In that case, one would expect something like "Skylo."

Tobar said:

Eh, I wouldn't get your hopes up. They recently started to expand on Kaiburr crystals in the canon. They've become pretty much just lightsaber crystals. In fact, the Death Stars actually use Kaiburr crystals to generate their blasts.

There's nothing in the canon to suggest that they lack mysticism. In fact, that they're both lightsabers crystals and Death Star beam generators suggests magical properties to me.

According to MSW, this showed up on the box of a new miniature game:

A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away . . . .

It is a time of uncertainty. Unrest grips the galaxy as the influence of the First Order spreads, but a glimmer of hope remains in the heroic forces of the Resistance. As they struggle against the dark might of the enemy, these brave heroes may yet awaken the skill and strength needed to forge a new future . . . .

Pretty vague stuff, but it's one of the first official glimpses of the political landscape I've seen.

joefavs said:

According to MSW, this showed up on the box of a new miniature game:

A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away . . . .

It is a time of uncertainty. Unrest grips the galaxy as the influence of the First Order spreads, but a glimmer of hope remains in the heroic forces of the Resistance. As they struggle against the dark might of the enemy, these brave heroes may yet awaken the skill and strength needed to forge a new future . . . .

Pretty vague stuff, but it's one of the first official glimpses of the political landscape I've seen.

 It's a total stretch, and not really important, but some are also speculating that the first line is also the first line in the TFA crawl, due to a guess the ANH minigame crawl starting with Period of civil war.