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Ronster
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Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
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14-Aug-2015, 8:56 AM

Basically just wanted to chime back in on this and after reading the fifth draft script... The Accounts the people have given on an alternative cut have to be wrong.

The Bacta Tank although we know there are extra shots for it, it could never have been "Blood Red" and there is no becoming red or clearing from red to blue mentioned in this script and it was just lit incorrectly although perhaps the flash and Luke thrasing about was considered a bit "Disturbing"

General veers Death I agree was edited out early on as there is no music to support his presence

And we know Han tortured was cut but It was never in any cuts that featured as It was censored from the very first edit no doubt.

this draft features the cut probe droid scenes and I do believe the probe droid scenes exist as there is music for these scenes, but If someone was giving an account of an uncut version the probe droid would feature heavily in their account.

To elaborate further on the music score for the film special effects shots that are missing seem to be in these particular areas.

PROBE DROID ARRIVAL- recut scene order and scored music for it's scene order and Han arrival at echo base

WAMPA CAVE - Slicing creatures arm off music and scenes not quoted but there is something not right.

Snowspeeder search - Music changed possibly due to probe droid cut scene

BACTA TANK - scenes missing music cue removed

AT-AT (North Ridge) Introductionary shots of AT-AT's removed and scene missing of snow speeders

ECHO BASE ESCAPE - Scene missing here music removed

Asteroid chase - Build up music removed script states the asteroid shown on "we're going in closer to one of the big ones" is not the big one and is swerved past and avoided. Missing shot

Arrival at Bespin - Missing establishing shot of the falcon arriving but this scene was never made and the film cut did not feature a animatic or the time to make  this missing scene. NO music made for this shot.

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The most interesting find that I found from this particular draft was to do with after the rebel briefing that Leia gives. scene 61

Han is working on the Millenium falcon and a piece falls and Leia stops and says "What a screw up!" aimed at Han with a dirty look which if that was ever filmed I would love to see that scene.

Other than this I noticed a particular missing detail in scene 212.

212 EXT MILLENNIUM FALCON - TIE FIGHTER - STAR DESTROYER

full shot space with the white planet Hoth in the lower part of the frame  The Millennium Falcon speeds away from the planet and over camera, closely followed by one huge star destroyer and six (changed to 4) tiny tie fighters which also race past camera. The slow moving Star destroyer fills the frame as it plows ever forward.

So the planet Hoth could be missing from this shot... Not a particularly big deal.

Aside from that there really is not much more to say about this script other than yes it is different but not excessively.

And to say again that the End of the film is where the most clustered differences are to the final film which would be covered in the final 5R shooting script if we could get our hands on the last revised shooting script.

This script is approximately two thirds accurate as it follows the deleted scenes dialogue practically 100%.

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I am on the fence about general Veers Death...

It might have gone like this in the video mock up and it might be the case that the music has been there all along to support the scene but he was whipped out last minute or with prior thought or because it was awaiting special effects or decided censorship.

http://vimeo.com/136316935

With a small amount of re-ordering and trimming everything fits exactly I did not have to alter very much at all. It's also a lot of death in a very short space of time.