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Trident said:

So weren't there supposed to be only 9 Doctors or something? Have we passed that number?

The limit was thirteen. The War Doctor and the Meta-Crisis Doctor, though not "numbered", counted in this thirteen. The number was surpassed when the Time Lords gave Eleven a new regeneration cycle. Technically, Twelve is number fourteen, but whatever.

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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Oh, ok that explains it.

K. Let’s have this ride.

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Question for you, Bingo.  Since there are only a handful of us who are going to understand your new avatar, am I to take it that you approve of Missy?

Ithink if they stick with rumored storyline of traveling with the Doctor for a while this coming season, it would be very interesting.

No doubt, she's not good and can't be trusted, but she could be a powerful ally fighting for a common cause.  Her interaction with a now refocused Clara could also be quite interesting.

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^Being that Bingowings only sporadically checks in on things here, and rarely posts, he might not see that here.

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Hmm.

So instead of having to defeat WOTAN, this time round the Doctor has to deal with Odin?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Someone disagreed with me before but I still maintain that Hulu has all of the extant Classic Who. At least from the Fourth Doctor on and this is Hulu Plus I'm referring to. Every arc I've checked has been accounted for.

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I was just binge watching seasons 1 to 8 of new Doctor Who on Netflix.

I only knew the first couple of episodes and though it was just too trashy for my taste. I tried it several times, but this series didn't work for me. Then, a couple of weeks ago I just started watching, while doing other things alongside, and once I got to "The empty child" I thought that this thing could get interesting after all. And now I'm very eager to see season 9.

Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

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Tobar said:

Someone disagreed with me before but I still maintain that Hulu has all of the extant Classic Who. At least from the Fourth Doctor on and this is Hulu Plus I'm referring to. Every arc I've checked has been accounted for.

I think that was me. Here is a list of serials that aren't on Hulu.

Marco Polo (Season 1) (Lost Serial)
The Keys of Marinus (Season 1)
The Reign of Terror (Season 1) (Lost Serial)
The Dalek Invasion of Earth (Season 2)
The Romans (Season 2)
The Crusade (Season 2) (Lost Serial)
Galaxy 4 (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
Mission to the Unknown (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
The Myth Makers (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
The Daleks' Master Plan (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
The Celestial Toymaker (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
The Savages (Season 3) (Lost Serial)
(All of Season 4 was skipped because it didn't have even one complete serial.)
The Abominable Snowman (Season 5) (Lost Serial)
The Ice Warriors (Season 5) (Lost Serial)
The Web of Fear (Season 5) (Lost Serial) (This serial has been uploaded on Hulu with the missing episode shown through telesnaps)
Fury from the Deep (Season 5) (Lost Serial)
The Wheel in Space (Season 5) (Lost Serial)
The Invasion (Season 6) (Lost Serial)
The Seeds of Death (Season 6)
The Space Pirates (Season 6) (Lost Serial)
The War Games (Season 6)
The Ambassadors of Death (Season 7)
Day of the Daleks (Season 9)
The Time Monster (Season 9)
Invasion of the Dinosaurs (Season 11)
Revenge of the Cybermen (Season 12)
Terror of the Zygons (Season 13)
The Brain of Morbius (Season 13)
The Seeds of Doom (Season 13)
The Hand of Fear (Season 14)
The Face of Evil (Season 14)
The Robots of Death (Season 14)
Image of the Fendahl (Season 15)
The Armageddon Factor (Season 16)
Four to Doomsday (Season 19)
Kinda (Season 19)
Earthshock (Season 19)
Time-Flight (Season 19)
Arc of Infinity (Season 20)
Mawdryn Undead (Season 20)
The King's Demons (Season 20)
The Five Doctors (Season 20)
Planet of Fire (Season 21)
Vengeance on Varos (Season 22)
Revelation of the Daleks (Season 22)
The Trial of a Timelord (ALL of Season 23)
Paradise Towers (Season 24)
Ghost Light (Season 26)

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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So who do you think it is that Maisie Williams is playing?

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TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans). 

I really do like what exists (and the audio of) the second Doctor. Particularly season 5 and a couple of the season 6 arcs. The show really peaks at seasons 12-14, though. edit: and, sadly, some of the very best are missing from that Hulu list.

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The Hartnell era, though good in its own ways, is very slow. For whatever reason I think of all the Hartnell episodes, The War Machines (and possibly The Tenth Planet) have the best pacing.

What do you mean "missing from that Hulu list"? Do you mean it's not in the list? That would mean that the episode is in fact available on Hulu. Or do you mean it's missing because it's in the hulu list?

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Hah, I was pretty unclear there. They're missing *based on* the list posted above. i.e. they're on the list above and missing from Hulu.

Also, Web of Fear is only missing one episode of six since the Nigerian find.

I agree that the War Machines pacing is much faster, and rather akin to the Pertwee era rather than Hartnell. That and Invasion really paved the way for UNIT Earth based stories. Still, after rewatching War Machines, I thought it was a rather weak serial. Tenth Planet is great, despite Hartnell's illness-related absence. 

Pacing aside, I think the first episode, Time Meddler, and Aztecs are my favorite Hartnells at the moment.

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I find of Hulu's decisions odd, like including Snake Dance but not Kinda, or including every serial in the Key to Time arc except for The Armageddon Factor, you know, HOW THE ARC ENDS! Similarly, skipping The War Games, which ends Two's era, or Terror of the Zygons, which shows the departure of Harry Sullivan as a regular companion...I could go on and on about how some of the serials skipped in the Hulu line-up are important ones, but I digress...

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Danfun128 said:

I find of Hulu's decisions odd, like including Snake Dance but not Kinda, or including every serial in the Key to Time arc except for The Armageddon Factor, you know, HOW THE ARC ENDS! Similarly, skipping The War Games, which ends Two's era, or Terror of the Zygons, which shows the departure of Harry Sullivan as a regular companion...I could go on and on about how some of the serials skipped in the Hulu line-up are important ones, but I digress...

 To be fair, Armageddon Factor was an abysmal end to a pretty great season. Maybe they're protecting their viewers :P

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TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.


 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).


My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

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TK-949 said:

towne32 said:



TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.


 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).



My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

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The "educational" historical episodes are the worst. I actively find The Gunfighters story offensive, as someone actually from the West. So glad they abandoned that for space adventures.

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Tobar said:

The "educational" historical episodes are the worst. I actively find The Gunfighters story offensive, as someone actually from the West. So glad they abandoned that for space adventures.

 Depends. By that point in Season 3, most episodes were pretty bad. I really enjoy the Aztecs, and I think Marco Polo would be good fun. Highlanders seemed interesting and I'd love to see The Massacre.

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towne32 said:

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:



TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.


 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).



My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

 Videotape was expensive (one factor in old episodes being erased) and video editing in post really didn't exist yet. It boggles my mind that videotape was sometimes spliced with a razor blade and glued together in the early days.

The behind the scenes stuff on the Hartnell era DVD's makes one appreciate how technically complex some stories were to pull off, essentially doing them like a "live" show.

To think I used to stress out over doing a simple three camera talk show back in college!

Where were you in '77?

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Some of the first episodes were pretty hard to watch, I felt so bad for Hartnell

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Every show takes time to find it's legs. Fortunately, the Daleks captured viewer's imaginations in a big way.

Where were you in '77?

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Warbler said:

So who do you think it is that Maisie Williams is playing?

 

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SilverWook said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:



TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.


 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).



My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

 Videotape was expensive (one factor in old episodes being erased) and video editing in post really didn't exist yet. It boggles my mind that videotape was sometimes spliced with a razor blade and glued together in the early days.

The behind the scenes stuff on the Hartnell era DVD's makes one appreciate how technically complex some stories were to pull off, essentially doing them like a "live" show.

To think I used to stress out over doing a simple three camera talk show back in college!

 It's true that editing was limited. But things were certainly spliced together and/or reshot. They had occasional on location shots for Hartnell (Dalek Invasion, Reign of Terror). My understanding is that the reshoots didn't happen due to being on an extremely tight time schedule. Setting everything up again took a lot of time, and going over the scheduled end time was extremely expensive. 

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So who do you think it is that Maisie Williams is playing?

 

 There's a shot with her and those stupid lion people that Romana ran off with...

But I'm barely in the middle of the Fifth Doctor run going through the series chronologically. So I don't have any insight into the current series.

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