Star Wars 1977 releases on 35mm — Page 15

poita, you've posted a really short 4K ProRes clip awhile ago.

I only have a resized screenshot from it and I was wondering which print was that. It sure looks amazing!

Is it raw or did you actually change something?

Here it is:

That was a first pass with cleanup and stabilisation and a rough colour pass. The blacks ended up crushed a little.

That was actually from the same print, but it was about 100 hours work just for that short piece as the print was in such bad shape.

frank678 said:

Here's a tech strip example from ebay where the lightsabres are whiter for whatever reason

 I downloaded that sample image and pumped up the colour, and you can see that the colour is in fact there. It is probably just an overexposed photo from a poor camera blowing out the light areas.

TServo2049 said:

Hey, do you happen to have any screens of another training shot, one of the ones where the lightsaber always looks white on the video transfers? Mike Verta has confirmed that it was clearly blue in every shot on theatrical prints in '77, and the bootleg videos from the original release seem to confirm this. But I'd love to see another screen from this "inferior" print if you have one.

 I can upload a clip from yet another rejected IB Tech, it wasn't scanned on the good scanner, but I have a proxy of it handy, so will compress it and upload that whole sequence.

Keep in mind that this is a poor quality scan from a rough print. I will not be using this one.

(The print was rejected as it had mould in the emulsion, so was too much work to clean up. This is one of the pitfalls, you can spend nearly a grand finding a print, having it cleaned, shipping it and shipping it back, only to find out it is relatively unusable)

If you are wondering why I just don't upload the clip from a better scan, it is simply that I have these older ones in proxy format and can recompress and upload them more quickly (it will still take me a few hours of dicking around). The current prints are across tens of drives, currently being backed up - moving 100s of TBs around literally takes days as they are in higher than 4K format with damage mattes etc. It takes forever to load them, find the section, set the black and white points, resize and render out and upload. I'm pretty time poor at the moment with 4 kids and trying to earn a buck, so even these 'quick' uploads eat a lot of my currently limited time.

As mentioned before, I am about a year away from completion assuming I can purchase another 50-80TB of HDDs, I will post progress along the way, but at the moment I am in acquisition and backup/file transfer mode, so you won't see a lot from me over the next month or so, after that if I have all the scans I need you should see regular updates.

My internet is slow, so the upload of the previously mentioned clip is going to take around 3 hours, I'll post it once it is up.

Here is the whole segment from the mouldy Tech.

https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/93a4c70a26c03793a82ceff88a1bac2120150627022341/1b8fc6f8e6947194e144942834229aed20150627022341/a209c6

And the sabre in Ben's shack, also from the mouldy Tech.

https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/787dde9d2eb31dffa80f6dda704563c520150627053120/7a6ea764ce924430ebd7700678b6f41520150627053120/51fb26

poita said:

...don't currently have enough drives to scan them due to a damn clump of drives failing.

 Are they under warranty?

Slightly off-topic, but regarding the sabre colors in the training scene, I took these screen captures from the Technidisc preservation: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Lukes-saber-appears-to-be-green-in-the-making-of-Star-wars-documentary/post/543602/#TopicPost543602

It's mostly blue, although the entire movie fluctuates in color, giving some shots a lot more yellow than others, causing his sabre to turn more greenish.

Potia, where do you normally get your HDDs from?

Whomever is cheapest on the day.

Officeworks, Amazon, Newegg, Harvey Norman...

What about Umart, IJK, MSY? MSY looks cheaper than Newegg (slightly)...

They are usually for usage in the USA and then wind their way back to me.

Ah, fair enough.

Yeah, it certainly was never green on film before 1997.

It was such a shame that IB had the mould problem, it was in good shape otherwise. I never had it scanned properly, which is why there is so much noise in the shadow areas, the scan was mostly for assessing the print, to see if any scenes were still viable.

Don't know why, but this thread went off my subscription, so I wasn't aware of all what's going on lately... so, let me say:

W-O-W-!-!-!

Great job, great image quality, in particular the one from "an inferior print"!!! (^^,)

I'll follow this thread carefully! Keep going, you are our film master!

team_negative1 said:

Thanks for the samples Poita, we took a quick take on some cleanup, and besides stabilization, the shot in Ben's hut came out pretty good.

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 Man, I don't know how you guys find the time, I don't have enough to work on my own projects as much as I'd like, let alone finding time to play in other ones.

Yeah, there are some weird roto issues throughout the 1977 releases, I did initially do some cleanup on that sequence, e.g.

I can't remember any more which was the later revision...

but as mentioned, it isn't worth the effort, there are better sources that warrant the time.

The sabre is particularly droopy in that shot.

:D This is what really happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThqybbqC_eM&feature=youtu.be&t=120

Haha!

Nice.