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Originally posted by: Darth Simon


And further more, the relation is Book: Obi-Wan and Owen are brothers
Movie: Anakin and Owen are Step-brothers


Correct, and succinct. Lucas said he changed his mind on the relationship while writing Episode II, thus rendering the novelization of ROTJ not-canon anymore ... at least, not for that page-and-a-half. The books were always supposed to be canon, until Lucas couldn't even stick with that. I think the Episode II relationship works better, but it does throw the canonical nature of the books out the window.



dont worry, once the super special ultimate editions of the book come out lucas will correct all (well most) of the inconsitencies. There will however be a few brand new inconsitencies as well as some spelling and grammer errors. But those are all deliberate artistic decisions. But no one will care because the new digitally enhanced font will bring a new life to the words on the page and allow Lucas to finally release the books as he had always intended but couldnt due to the limits of printing presses in the late 70's early 80's.

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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oOH That's so funny Realy----Lucas needs to pay more attention to his fans and stuff.
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My take on this subject is that Obi-Wan and Yoda both allowed their deaths to happen. They didn't fight to stay alive. Qui-Gon and Vader succumbed to battle death. Obi-Wan and Yoda both knew their time was up so they let it happen. Kenobi let Vader kill him and he disappeared. Yoda let the force in him give out, died and disappeared. Qui-Gon was killed by Maul in battle, died and didn't disappear. Vader's hand was cut off by Luke therefore setting in motion his death, and therefore did not disappear.

If Qui-Gon and Vader saw their futures and knew that they needed to die and were going to do so, I believe they too would have disappeared.

Of course George Lucas will probably dispell this theory with some strange idea but from those I have shared it with in the past it's a consensus pick on it being the closest to reality. ::shrug::
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But it wasn't Luke cuttiing off Vader's hand that killed Vader.

It was all that force-lightning that Palps zapped Vader with right before he was unceremonioulsy dropped into a deep deep pit. Vader's hand wasn't a vital organ.

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the hand that Luke cut off Vader was mechanical, it was the Emperor's force lightning that ultimately killed Vader
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Or at least shorted out his breathing apparatus.

Edit: Spelling.
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I know not everyone bought the trilogy on DVD. But did anyone else listen to the audio commentaries. Lucas mentions I believe in the commentary of Empire that it will be explained the difference between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. It has something to with their willingness to become one with the force. Since Qui-Gon was kind of liberal when it came to the Jedi code maybe he really was not willing to become one with the force just yet. I don't know but the audio commentaries give some good clues on the situation.
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I agree with what SubZero and SWFanBoy. After thinking about it for a while, that's the only thing I can come up with. This became more evident during EPII when the Jedi were getting killed in the arena. It should be interesting to see if Lucass reviels it during EPIII. Hopefully we'll get an answer we've been wondering for many years.
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For some reason I don't think GL will explain the whole issue on episode 3. In order to do this, he would have to establish a dialogue scene between two characters, in which one of them would explain the whole thing to the other character (since the movie has no narration and no "greek chorus" thing, that's how he would do it). And I don't see how he could fit such a scene on episode 3. Perhaps he'll let it more "implied", but that would not be clear enough to answer this question fully.
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