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imperialscum said:

Well racism and racial segregation was openly practised under your current flag as well.

And if I sum up all the bad* US foreign policies in the last 100 years under your current flag, I would say Confederate flag represents the lesser evil of the two.

What country are you from?  I'm guessing they're perfect, just like you are.

We do a shit-ton of good too, and some of it has probably (directly or indirectly) helped your country.

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TV's Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

I've always wondered why it was culturally acceptable to wear the confederate flag (and how has it taken so long for people to realize that that shouldn't be okay?) but I'm actually fine with still allowing the flag on shirts and license plates and such. Makes it easier to spot the shitty people and avoid them.

 Government should not allow it on a license plate.  In fact, I have a problem with any politically charged license plate.  The "choose life" ones are especially galling.

 Why would 'choose life' be of a particular flavor of gall in your opinion? Certainly it must be an improvement upon a 'seek death' agenda...?

While not much a promoter on either front, I do not particularly mind if one expresses him or herself on the outside...either on mittens or a vehicle...or are you considering the danger of road rage to be a possible outcome?

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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I'm not sure if you really don't understand what "choose life" means - it means "end abortion."  Which I find personally offensive for reasons I've explained many times.

I don't care if someone wears a "choose life" t-shirt, that's their problem.  But government should not sanction it on a license plate, anymore than they should give out pro-choice license plates.

Anyway....isn't this the random thoughts thread?  The politics thread is a long way from here.

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TV's Frink said:

I'm guessing they're perfect, just like you are.

You guess correctly.

真実

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TV's Frink said:

I'm not sure if you really don't understand what "choose life" means - it means "end abortion."  Which I find personally offensive for reasons I've explained many times.

 It's usually also "end/prevent euthanasia" and in some cases, more than that.

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I choose the quantum superposition of being dead and alive at the same time.

Or, to be more accurate, it has chosen me.

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EyeShotFirst said:

I had family that fought on both sides, and it was one of the most brutal wars we've ever been apart of. People think Isis and Al Qaeda are something to fear, but nobody kills Americans better than Americans.

if you really studied the Civil War, you'd know the reason it was so bloody wasn't because "nobody kills Americans better than Americans"   The real reason was that the technology outgrew the tactics.   At the beginning of the war they are fighting like they had fought previous wars.  They stood right across the fields from each other and fired.   But the weapons had advanced since the previous war.  The guns became more accurate, longer range and more powerful, thus when combined with old tactics, massive casualties result.  If you look near to the end of the war they were getting closer and closer to trench warfare style of combat.

 

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TV's Frink said:

EyeShotFirst said:

You can buy a nazi flag on Amazon, but not a confederate flag...

Let that sink in.

 One wrong and one right does not make it right or wrong...it just makes it halfway to right.

Let that sink in.

 say what you will, it is stupid and asinine to decide not to sell the Confederate flag because you don't want to offend people while still selling the Nazi flag.

If Amazon feels that the Confederate flag is so offensive that they don't want to sell it any longer, why did they feel it was ok to sell before the shooting?  Does one shooting really change what that flag means?

I'd still like to know what people think of my idea of swapping the Confederate battle flag(the flag we think of as the Confederate flag) for the original flag of the Confederacy?

Flag of the Confederate States of America (1861-1863).svg

would it be ok to have this flag flying over the Civil War memorial on SC capital grounds.  

Finally just to make clear to those that don't realize:  The Confederate flag has flown on top of the SC state capital for over ten years.  Some time ago in a compromise, it was moved from the top of the capital to a Civil War memorial on the grounds of the capital.  

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TV's Frink said:

I'm not sure if you really don't understand what "choose life" means - it means "end abortion."  Which I find personally offensive for reasons I've explained many times.

again please remember many anti abortion people have no problem with an abortion in the cases like what you refer to. 

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imperialscum said:

Well racism and racial segregation was openly practised under your current flag as well.

And if I sum up all the bad* US foreign policies in the last 100 years under your current flag, I would say Confederate flag represents the lesser evil of the two.



 would the mods please just ban him already?

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Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

Well racism and racial segregation was openly practised under your current flag as well.

And if I sum up all the bad* US foreign policies in the last 100 years under your current flag, I would say Confederate flag represents the lesser evil of the two.



 would the mods please just ban him already?

 No, dear Warbler, think of the freedom of speech that would be stripped away if such were to be the case. Besides, without the likes of imperialscum what would members of the rebellion do with their fancy ships?

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

EyeShotFirst said:

You can buy a nazi flag on Amazon, but not a confederate flag...

Let that sink in.

 One wrong and one right does not make it right or wrong...it just makes it halfway to right.

Let that sink in.

 say what you will, it is stupid and asinine to decide not to sell the Confederate flag because you don't want to offend people while still selling the Nazi flag.

If Amazon feels that the Confederate flag is so offensive that they don't want to sell it any longer, why did they feel it was ok to sell before the shooting?  Does one shooting really change what that flag means?

I'd still like to know what people think of my idea of swapping the Confederate battle flag(the flag we think of as the Confederate flag) for the original flag of the Confederacy?

Flag of the Confederate States of America (1861-1863).svg

would it be ok to have this flag flying over the Civil War memorial on SC capital grounds.  

Finally just to make clear to those that don't realize:  The Confederate flag has flown on top of the SC state capital for over ten years.  Some time ago in a compromise, it was moved from the top of the capital to a Civil War memorial on the grounds of the capital.  

 It seems a reasonable compromise...

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Post Praetorian said:

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

Well racism and racial segregation was openly practised under your current flag as well.

And if I sum up all the bad* US foreign policies in the last 100 years under your current flag, I would say Confederate flag represents the lesser evil of the two.



 would the mods please just ban him already?

 No, dear Warbler, think of the freedom of speech that would be stripped away if such were to be the case. Besides, without the likes of imperialscum what would members of the rebellion do with their fancy ships?

 as I was told in the past many many times.  the 1st amendment doesn't apply to this forum.   Jay can limit speech on his own forum as much as he wishes. 

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Post Praetorian said:

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

EyeShotFirst said:

You can buy a nazi flag on Amazon, but not a confederate flag...

Let that sink in.

 One wrong and one right does not make it right or wrong...it just makes it halfway to right.

Let that sink in.

 say what you will, it is stupid and asinine to decide not to sell the Confederate flag because you don't want to offend people while still selling the Nazi flag.

If Amazon feels that the Confederate flag is so offensive that they don't want to sell it any longer, why did they feel it was ok to sell before the shooting?  Does one shooting really change what that flag means?

I'd still like to know what people think of my idea of swapping the Confederate battle flag(the flag we think of as the Confederate flag) for the original flag of the Confederacy?

Flag of the Confederate States of America (1861-1863).svg

would it be ok to have this flag flying over the Civil War memorial on SC capital grounds.  

Finally just to make clear to those that don't realize:  The Confederate flag has flown on top of the SC state capital for over ten years.  Some time ago in a compromise, it was moved from the top of the capital to a Civil War memorial on the grounds of the capital.  

 It seems a reasonable compromise...

I would be very interested to hear what Frink thinks.  I would also like to hear from Ferris but he doesn't post here often.

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Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

EyeShotFirst said:

You can buy a nazi flag on Amazon, but not a confederate flag...

Let that sink in.

 One wrong and one right does not make it right or wrong...it just makes it halfway to right.

Let that sink in.

 say what you will, it is stupid and asinine to decide not to sell the Confederate flag because you don't want to offend people while still selling the Nazi flag.

If Amazon feels that the Confederate flag is so offensive that they don't want to sell it any longer, why did they feel it was ok to sell before the shooting?  Does one shooting really change what that flag means?

Have you maybe considered the possibility as to why Confederate flag is not sold by Amazon being related to marketing rather than to offensiveness? After all, being a redneck just isn't cool in civilised world. :)

真実

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ray_afraid said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

If you are in the Delaware area this is happening.  Personally I can't wait.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dover-Comic-Con-2015/328123484028793

 But, when you have absolutely no way to get to town to find friends or look for work, much less hold a job (or any of the other things you always complain about), how will you get there? And how will you pay to get in?

 I'm pretty sure he said he isn't going to post here anymore, because the US legalized gay marriage.  Guess it not only impacts his life directly but it's also our fault.  (damnit Frink!)

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Post Praetorian said:

Warbler said:

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

Well racism and racial segregation was openly practised under your current flag as well.

And if I sum up all the bad* US foreign policies in the last 100 years under your current flag, I would say Confederate flag represents the lesser evil of the two.



 would the mods please just ban him already?

 No, dear Warbler, think of the freedom of speech that would be stripped away if such were to be the case. Besides, without the likes of imperialscum what would members of the rebellion do with their fancy ships?

Put on fancy boat shows which cost an arm and a leg to attend, of course. 

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I was born as a chick with a dick, but recently I had an operation to turn me into a regular dude.

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People are quick to start a confrontation about almost everything. I've had simple non-political/religious small talk turn into a heated argument with the snap of a finger. It's happening more and more.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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crampedmisfit1990 said:

Are there any members on here that are chicks with dicks???

I think I remember hearing mention that a transwoman used to post on this forum. That was ages ago, though, before I started posting here. 

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EyeShotFirst said:

People are quick to start a confrontation about almost everything. I've had simple non-political/religious small talk turn into a heated argument with the snap of a finger. It's happening more and more.

 You slimy, no good -- What do you know?

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Handman said:

EyeShotFirst said:

People are quick to start a confrontation about almost everything. I've had simple non-political/religious small talk turn into a heated argument with the snap of a finger. It's happening more and more.

 You slimy, no good -- What do you know?

How dare you call him slimy!! You green blooded hobgoblin!

<span style=“font-weight: bold;”>The Most Handsomest Guy on OT.com</span>

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DuracellEnergizer said:

crampedmisfit1990 said:

Are there any members on here that are chicks with dicks???

I think I remember hearing mention that a transwoman used to post on this forum. That was ages ago, though, before I started posting here. 

 Lady Ferry, I think her name is, and she still posts every so often in the ESBR thread.

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You know what's funny about DrCrows sudden departure directly because of gay marriage being legalized in the US(... wtf.  Guess he's moving to Russia or Ethiopia?)  is that I remember this other time he said something like all conservative republicans deserve to be executed, and yes he seriously said that.

I'm not hating the guy, I actually liked his thoughts and enjoyed talking with him outside of the political threads and I honestly hope he comes back, but this has all left me a bit confused.  :S