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Post #776050

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RicOlie_2
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Open-Eyed Thinking (Exploring Uncomfortable Topics)
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13-Jun-2015, 8:45 PM

Ryan McAvoy said:

darth_ender said:

Thanks imperialscum... I appreciate you seeing my intended point rather than the morality point.

I made no moral comment on what you said. I pointed out one is with consent, the other isn't.

That is looking at the moral aspect of it. It is immoral why? Because there is no consent. Regardless of whether or not you gave your position, you're still talking about the moral aspect of it.

darth_ender said:

the primary function of sex is reproduction, with the secondary of sharing love. Homosexuality is clearly not in line with the primary function. The same could be said about pedophilia or zoophelia.

The same could be said of hetrosexual sex and if you really want to stretch this stupid analogy, pedophilia can result in reproduction. So that makes it okay?

He never said it makes it OK. Now you're talking about morality again. He's not talking about that. He's talking about the fact that homosexuality isn't considered a disorder anymore, simply because it's considered moral now. Yet it has no evident evolutionary advantage, since a homosexual relationship is necessarily sterile.

darth_ender said:

There are those who experience such attraction who even argue that they simply are another sexual orientation and shouldn't be persecuted for such attraction.

Those people are wrong as you know very well because consent cannot be given.

He's talking about an attraction here, not sex. For some reason, people who are emotionally caught up in the homosexuality issue can't seem to differentiate between the two.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I'm sure you'll argue that paragraph doesn't say "Being gay is like being a pedophile" but yeah it does. Children and animals can't give consent, adults can. You aren't an idiot, so I know you understand this distinction. So why make a post like that?

Again for the last time, I'm sure you are intelligent enough to know what consent means, so why ignore it to make an offensive post the way you did.

 Yes, that's what he said, but you're completely missing the reason he said it. Both aren't naturally productive (evolutionary speaking), and in that way, they could both be considered disorders of a sort.

And the age at which "consent" can be given varies with the individual (with their maturity and intelligence). Why can't a fifteen year-old legally consent to sex with a fifty year old? It used to be socially acceptable, but isn't now. Who decides what is and isn't consent?