So we never did get one of those games going. Tobar sounded potentially interested in a 3d variant. You suggested possibly shogi4, but here not to confuse the other game in the other thread. Or perhaps we could try one of the Chess with Different Armies games you suggested. Sorry we never finished the last game. Life got really busy for me around that time, and it is better now, though still plenty busy. Part of the problem is when I want to get a bunch of moves in a day. I just need to be content with a slow, long game. It's up to you, Ric. Or Tobar. Or anyone else.