DominicCobb said:
Monogamy is not normal sexuality. Waiting til marriage for sex is not normal sexuality. This is a two way street. Whatever "normal sexuality" is or was doesn't matter anymor. Open your eyes and get over it. Homosexuality is normal sexuality now.
You may be making a "scientific" argument but you're basically just repeating the typical homophobic "slippery slope" argument more eloquently.
Maybe something like transsexualism is technically a "disorder" but who gives a fuck. If a guy feels like he should be a girl, then why not let him be a girl? It's a victimless act.
Having sex with children and animals is not victimles, however. That's the difference.
My good DomnicCobb, I believe you are 100% correct...yet at the same time at least 50% wrong. The distinction is among what is morally, ethically, and psychologically correct. A child might prefer chocolate to peas for psychologically understood and rational reasons, yet is it in the child's best interest to pursue a life bereft of peas?
To clarify, dear Ender is putting the point that although we may believe that homosexuality is a correct lifestyle (as I do), it may not actually make psychological sense based on the hard-wired preservation of the species assumed to be nascent in all human beings. Given this anomalous situation, therefore, is it truly justifiable to refuse to study the contradiction based solely on political feelings of the time?
To clarify still further: should science consider the prevailing political views of the day in deciding for itself what might constitute symptoms of psychological behavior?
And certainly you do present an interesting argument with regards to monogamy and premarital sex, however there are fairly reasonable aspects behind the two choices that might yet make them more and more advantageous in an adaptive species.
1) There is a vastly reduced risk of contracting and/or passing on contagious diseases to one's offspring.
2) The children seem to grow up in a less anxious environment and so tend to have improved developmental outcomes.
3) Fewer resources are expended in the pursuits of mates so that these same resources might be better spent establishing a safe and secure environment for ones progeny.
Further, such choices seemingly must often be borne with a certain difficulty and so must needs be at the very least considered quite apart from an apparent driving need to avoid the production of offspring altogether. In other words, such remain choices rather than imperatives of the psyche.