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The new Star Wars comics - a general discussion thread — Page 15

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Yay, another pointless development that'll ultimately have no impact on the characters whatsoever since we all know how Han & Leia's relationship pans out.

God, the nuEU's such a creatively destitute entity so far. Why doesn't Lucasfilm hire me to write stories for them? I -- and millions of other unprofessional writers out there -- can think of a thousand better stories to tell than lameass soap opera shit like this.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Yay, another pointless development that'll ultimately have no impact on the characters whatsoever since we all know how Han & Leia's relationship pans out.

God, the nuEU's such a creatively destitute entity so far. Why doesn't Lucasfilm hire me to write stories for them? I -- and millions of other unprofessional writers out there -- can think of a thousand better stories to tell than lameass soap opera shit like this.

 You mean space opera.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Yay, another pointless development that'll ultimately have no impact on the characters whatsoever since we all know how Han & Leia's relationship pans out.

Han having a wife will most certainty stall the development of the relationship. You seem to forget that there is 3 years of space between ANH and ESB so this is a much needed roadblock. 

Also none of us know the nature of this marriage or how it was orchestrated so your complaints at this juncture are unwarranted. Not only that...Han having a secret wife fits his character...

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Lord Haseo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Yay, another pointless development that'll ultimately have no impact on the characters whatsoever since we all know how Han & Leia's relationship pans out.

Han having a wife will most certainty stall the development of the relationship.

So what? If this was 1978-1983, this story might work -- TESB and/or ROTJ haven't come out yet, so there's no way of knowing what will happen with the characters.

However, this isn't the late '70s/early '80s, this is 2015; I know things work out perfectly for them, so what am I supposed to fear for? One way or another, Mrs. Han Solo I will quickly exit stage right and it will be like she never was there to begin with.

You seem to forget that there is 3 years of space between ANH and ESB so this is a much needed roadblock.

1. No, I haven't forgotten. Of course, perhaps I don't really care.  Perhaps I think that after decades of stories focused on the Big Three, there's no more mileage to be found in their stories. Perhaps I think instead of focusing on Luke/Leia/Han, this series should do something different like -- oh, I don't know -- focusing on peripheral and original characters in the SW Universe.

2. "Roadblock" is just another word for "filler", right?

Also none of us know the nature of this marriage or how it was orchestrated

And I don't care. Creatively-bankrupt Marvel hasn't given me any reason to care.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Lord Haseo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Yay, another pointless development that'll ultimately have no impact on the characters whatsoever since we all know how Han & Leia's relationship pans out.

Han having a wife will most certainty stall the development of the relationship.

So what? If this was 1978-1983, this story might work -- TESB and/or ROTJ haven't come out yet, so there's no way of knowing what will happen with the characters.

However, this isn't the late '70s/early '80s, this is 2015; I know things work out perfectly for them, so what am I supposed to fear for? One way or another, Mrs. Han Solo I will quickly exit stage right and it will be like she never was there to begin with.

Then why in the mother of fuck are you reading these series of comics? Shouldn't this predictability hinder you from Rogue One and the inevitable Old Republic movies as well? And that should certainly have deterred you from viewing the PT. 

1. No, I haven't forgotten. Of course, perhaps I don't really care.  Perhaps I think that after decades of stories focused on the Big Three, there's no more mileage to be found in their stories. Perhaps I think instead of focusing on Luke/Leia/Han, this series should do something different like -- oh, I don't know -- focusing on peripheral and original characters in the SW Universe."

Well I hope the ST is too your liking but I doubt it will live up to any inane expectations any of us have.

"Roadblock" is just another word for "filler", right? 

Pretty much. I'm sure Marvel plans on making over 100 comics in each series there has to be something to fill the pages. Plus, I have never encountered a relationship that had no hurdles to be overcome. No arguments, breaches of trusts or hiatuses. Even for developing relationships there can be other factors that can bring it to a standstill. Having everything hunky dory would just be unrealistic.

And I don't care. Creatively-bankrupt Marvel hasn't given me any reason to care.

Way perpetuate the stereotype that Star Wars fans complain about everything no matter how minute. Now it seems that we will complain about shit that hasn't fully panned out yet. 

If you can write a better story line for the current continuity...by all means. I'd love to see what your mind conjures up.

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I would love a Jaxxon and the Starhoppers comic.

Thanks to Guardians of the Galaxy, violent but cute furry animals are big business with Marvel right now. :)

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Where were you in '77?

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At the Marvel panel at Celebration they made it clear that they wanted to bring back Jaxxon but the story group rejected it. THAT they'll nix but not the rest of the mess that's filled this run. =/

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That's because Jaxxon wasn't there to convince them...

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Where were you in '77?

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Is this whole Sana Solo thing really so bad?  A character from Han's past coming by to stir up trouble sounds like classic comic-book writing to me.

Jedit: Jaxxon or bust

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Lord Haseo said:

Then why in the mother of fuck are you reading these series of comics?

I'm not, really. The main series sounds like crap, so I'm avoiding it. I read the first two issues of the Vader comic and then I quit. The only comic I'm currently reading is the Princess Leia miniseries, and that's proven to be a milquetoast waste of time.

Shouldn't this predictability hinder you from Rogue One and the inevitable Old Republic movies as well? And that should certainly have deterred you from viewing the PT.

Different stakes and different characters are at play here. Rogue One's going to presumably have a roster of characters who have never appeared before, so I don't know what's going to happen to them. As for the PT, it promised to flesh out the Clone Wars, the collapse of the Old Republic, Anakin's rise and fall, and the end of the Jedi Order;  Han and Leia's love life pales considerably in comparison to that.

As for Old Republic movies, I won't be watching any if they're just going to be more of the same "Jedi vs. Sith" claptrap that's been churned out for the past several years.

Well I hope the ST is too your liking but I doubt it will live up to any inane expectations any of us have.

I hope so, too. At the very least, I expect it to be better than the PT.

Way perpetuate the stereotype that Star Wars fans complain about everything no matter how minute. Now it seems that we will complain about shit that hasn't fully panned out yet.

Perhaps if the nuEU wasn't already succumbing to poor quality control, I'd be less pissy.

If you can write a better story line for the current continuity...by all means. I'd love to see what your mind conjures up.

How about this: The Empire obviously has access to cloning technology, so why not tell a story about Imperials kidnapping people involved in the Rebellion and replacing them with clone spies? That subject's been an elephant in the room ever since AOTC came out; it's about time it was addressed.

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bkev said:

Is this whole Sana Solo thing really so bad?  A character from Han's past coming by to stir up trouble sounds like classic comic-book writing to me.

For my part, I'm simply underwhelmed by the way the nuEU's been developed so far. The entire slate's been wiped clean, leaving a whole universe of storytelling opportunity there for writers to take advantage of, and what do they do with it? Tell a bunch of mediocre, run-of-the-mill stories about the same three characters which adds nothing of significance or importance to the SW Universe.

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While you're not entirely wrong, I'm glad they're starting with run-of-the-mill stories. Those are my favorite kinds of comics; "epic" storylines annoy me, especially with characters (and a whole universe) based on pulp novels and movie serials.

I'll admit more interesting things would be cool, but for now, this is fine to me.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Lord Haseo said:

Then why in the mother of fuck are you reading these series of comics?

Perhaps if the nuEU wasn't already succumbing to poor quality control, I'd be less pissy.

 Don't you mean "If the EU wasn't scrapped, I'd be less pissy"?

I'm irate as well. Having come of the Darth Bane trilogy I know with absolute certainty that nothing in the nuEU come close to coming close. Whether it be comics, movies or novels. But the masquerading and the transparency is something I could do without.  

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Lord Haseo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lord Haseo said:

Then why in the mother of fuck are you reading these series of comics?

Perhaps if the nuEU wasn't already succumbing to poor quality control, I'd be less pissy.

 Don't you mean "If the EU wasn't scrapped, I'd be less pissy"?

 If you knew Duracell just a bit better, you'd know that wasn't the case at all. He's the one who started the "What do you HATE about the EU" thread, and his head canon is vastly different from the old official canon (and the new).

I think he's just disappointed that the nuEU isn't of superior quality to the old.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Lord Haseo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lord Haseo said:

Then why in the mother of fuck are you reading these series of comics?

Perhaps if the nuEU wasn't already succumbing to poor quality control, I'd be less pissy.

 Don't you mean "If the EU wasn't scrapped, I'd be less pissy"?

 If you knew Duracell just a bit better, you'd know that wasn't the case at all. He's the one who started the "What do you HATE about the EU" thread, and his head canon is vastly different from the old official canon (and the new).

I think he's just disappointed that the nuEU isn't of superior quality to the old.

There's shit I hate about Breaking Bad, Dexter, South Park and Game Of Thrones....Your point being?

He has not read enough to make an accurate assessment.

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Yes, well, there isn't exactly enough out there to make an accurate assessment yet. What there is, though, either disinterests me or leaves me cold. That may change in the future, but with Lucasfilm's track record, I have very serious doubts.

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You should give the Kanan series a go. It's the story of an apprentice on the run just after the betrayal. AND it's not written by the Marvel stable of writers but an accomplished writer in multiple mediums.

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As far as i'm concerned, there just isn't enough out yet to make any kind of judgement, good or bad. I'm not a long-time comic reader, but as far as TV goes, some of the best shows of all time have taken two or three seasons to find their footing. None of these have been going for more than six issues. It's completely reasonable that they aren't great. the fact that none of them are Kevin J. Anderson bad at this point is enough to keep me on board to see what happens.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Yes, well, there isn't exactly enough out there to make an accurate assessment yet. What there is, though, either disinterests me or leaves me cold. That may change in the future, but with Lucasfilm's track record, I have very serious doubts.

 No truer words have ever been spoken.

I will admit that my interest has slowly waned as it pertains to the Star Wars and Darth Vader comics. Though Vader discovering Luke was the one who destroyed the Death Star and knowing Sidious lied about his offspring could yield some very interesting situations and character progression. 

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The Dark Empire story line is great for lovers of the Original Trilogy and if you like the Prequel Era, maybe reading the Clone Wars comics would be interesting as well, originally they were called Republic when they were first published as comic books, but now they are compiled into several graphic novel omnibuses. Also, Star Wars Tales graphic Novels are great if you like any era in the Star Wars universe.

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