I guess that's true, but it just seems like such a harsh picture: kill yourself because you don't think you can change and can't stand making everyone else suffer or else make everyone suffer, but then know that it will just make them hate you later.

Maybe I'm just naive, but it seems like if I was a compulsive gambler I would just talk to my family about it--but maybe that's because I think of my own addictions as so much worse that gambling seems easier to talk about. Or maybe I just don't understand the thought process. But I mean if you've reached the point where you know what's going on and what's going to happen haven't you gotten to a place where you might be able to change?

Then again I don't think I can change and I've reached that same point so maybe you're right.