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Thanks Jetrell and thanks Mackit again for helping me get set up! :)
“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”
RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)" — Page 27
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May I please humbly ask for a link to the download please?
Thank you in advance!
jaede
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jaede77 said:
May I please humbly ask for a link to the download please?
Thank you in advance!
jaede
No ..... you have to have an invite before you could even make use of a link for it.
Go here ......
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Post-in-this-thread-to-request-an-invite-to-MySpleenorg-you-MUST-read-the-first-post/topic/8592/
... and ask nicely please. Someone here may be cordial enough to oblige.
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thank you for directing me!
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I can't wait to see this version! Yes, I already asked for an invite but still, it'll be very interesting to see the various versions put together in one definitive version that Paramount OUGHT to release! :)
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Do we have a bit perfect audio capture from this LD anywhere?
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What if both VHS copies of the Longer version were used in tandem with the LD an the Director's Cut DVD to create an infinitely nice looking final product? Merging the best of all the captures could yield far better results for clarity and composition.
Any thoughts on this?
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If there are any differences on the audio tracks on each VHS copy, then it might certainly be interesting to include them.
I still have a VHS copy of the Special Longer Version in German and I'd like to offer its audio track if you're interested. It was released around 1997 and was digitally remastered. On the case it says: Hi-Fi Stereo Dolby Surround Mono Compatible.
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FekLeyrTarg said:
If there are any differences on the audio tracks on each VHS copy, then it might certainly be interesting to include them.
I still have a VHS copy of the Special Longer Version in German and I'd like to offer its audio track if you're interested. It was released around 1997 and was digitally remastered. On the case it says: Hi-Fi Stereo Dolby Surround Mono Compatible.
I don't see 2 US VHS releases have any audio differences. I was referring to using a median of say 3 like video captures for footage needed to complete a higher res restoration for better detail and such.
Having a German video might help the picture quality from a median of four if done right.
Is the German version fullscreen or wide?
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Ah, I understand now.
The German version is fullscreen.
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FekLeyrTarg said:
Ah, I understand now.
The German version is fullscreen.
I believe the US versions are fullscreen as well.
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It should be noted that there are several different fullscreen transfers of this film that often have the pick-up on different sides of the screen. For example, when Kirk first beams over to the floating office at the beginning, one full screen transfer shows Scotty, another shows the transporter operator next to him. There are a couple of moments when this sort of thing happens, but that's the one that springs to mind.
If a project were to attempt to combine sources in this manner, the Special Longer Version scenes ought to be checked to see if there isn't more information that could be incorporated because of this.
I don't think there were any audio remixes after the Special Longer Version was cut, though. The VHS and LD audio tracks were identical as I recall — it's a very center-heavy mix.
Additional variations: while the subtitles in the Klingon section were always in the same font, there are some video releases where the spoken Vulcan has the subtitles in a different font.
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Jetrell Fo said:
FekLeyrTarg said:
If there are any differences on the audio tracks on each VHS copy, then it might certainly be interesting to include them.
I still have a VHS copy of the Special Longer Version in German and I'd like to offer its audio track if you're interested. It was released around 1997 and was digitally remastered. On the case it says: Hi-Fi Stereo Dolby Surround Mono Compatible.
I don't see 2 US VHS releases have any audio differences. I was referring to using a median of say 3 like video captures for footage needed to complete a higher res restoration for better detail and such.
Having a German video might help the picture quality from a median of four if done right.
Is the German version fullscreen or wide?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the actual release using the Director's Edition deleted scenes combined with a down-scaled HDTV airing of the theatrical? I mean that alone is significantly better than anything you could get with VHS or Laserdisc.
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Sonically, the Director's Edition is a very different mix than what originally appeared on the Special Longer Version. The audio on an unrotted laserdisc (i.e. not mine) would be the best source for that.
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Wazzles said:
Jetrell Fo said:
FekLeyrTarg said:
If there are any differences on the audio tracks on each VHS copy, then it might certainly be interesting to include them.
I still have a VHS copy of the Special Longer Version in German and I'd like to offer its audio track if you're interested. It was released around 1997 and was digitally remastered. On the case it says: Hi-Fi Stereo Dolby Surround Mono Compatible.
I don't see 2 US VHS releases have any audio differences. I was referring to using a median of say 3 like video captures for footage needed to complete a higher res restoration for better detail and such.
Having a German video might help the picture quality from a median of four if done right.
Is the German version fullscreen or wide?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the actual release using the Director's Edition deleted scenes combined with a down-scaled HDTV airing of the theatrical? I mean that alone is significantly better than anything you could get with VHS or Laserdisc.
My intention was ONLY to suggest that we might be able to up the detail with a median from a few different captures of the same material, like what Andrea does with LD's. The one that is out now isn't as hi-res as it could be.
JEDIT:
Edit and Preservation by FanFiltration
Most of the footage for this version is imported from the Director's Cut DVD set (but this is a major re-ordering and edit of that footage). Much of the footage that was missing from that set has been imported from a letterbox High Definition broadcast version. The original audio track was taken from the long out-of-print laser of the 1983 Special Longer Version.
Video / Audio Sources:
A) Widescreen High-Definition T.V. Broadcast of the 1979 Theatrical Version.
B) Director's Cut DVD {Including bonus out-takes and trims}
C) Laserdisc of 1983 Special Longer Version {Audio Only}
In the end, it was just a suggestion, not a dig at FF's creation.
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I just received my Special Longer Version VHS. It is the 75th Anniversary Special Collector's Series Edition.
It has Stereo audio so I believe that could be translated to PCM.
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Jetrell Fo said:
Do we have a bit perfect audio capture from this LD anywhere?
Actually yes, I have a rip I did of the Japanese LD which (as far as I know) was the only release to have digital sound. I can upload it if anyone's interested.
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mj0012 said:
Jetrell Fo said:
Do we have a bit perfect audio capture from this LD anywhere?
Actually yes, I have a rip I did of the Japanese LD which (as far as I know) was the only release to have digital sound. I can upload it if anyone's interested.
May I be the first to say yes please!!! Thank you kindly for offering to share. This is good news.
:)
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Sounds great!
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mj0012 said:
Jetrell Fo said:
Do we have a bit perfect audio capture from this LD anywhere?
Actually yes, I have a rip I did of the Japanese LD which (as far as I know) was the only release to have digital sound. I can upload it if anyone's interested.
To mj0012:
Yes, please, I am very interested. Thank you.
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Does anyone have the blu-ray deleted scenes extracted cleanly? The ones I've extracted have had audio problems and visual stepping problems. I'm on a Mac with a Blu-Ray Player/Burner using MakeMKV, but the movie files aren't working out as smoothly as I'd hoped. I was hoping to put together for myself an SLV version (excluding the Kirk walk since it's not included) from the TMP blu-ray. Thanks.
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I believe there was something said about the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray being in 1080i, making it difficult to cut the film back together?
I don't recall where I heard that but that might be the issue that you're having.
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What about using the "deleted scenes" from the Directors Cut DVD?
Those might help although you'd probably have to upscale them properly.
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The deleted scenes on my PAL DVD are 576i @ 25fps, the deleted scenes on my BD are 480i @ 29.97fps, all of them could be ripped without any problems using MakeMKV. I never heard about 1080i versions of the deleted scenes
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Yeah, the blu-ray deleted scenes are not 1080, they're 480. But I'd still be interested in a clean extraction - for some reason when I take the MKV files into editing, I get strange audio and stepping problems.