team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released) — Page 74

I think those last samples say it all. They scream Star Wars! The bluray is like a woman who once was beautiful, but now looks horrible thanks to too much plastic surgery and botox.

DrDre said:

The bluray is like a woman who once was beautiful, but now looks horrible thanks to too much plastic surgery and botox.

 lol :)

excellent analogy

1080p, scaled down from a 4K scan.

EDIT: Sorry for the terseness. Wrote that while watching a movie. The film has been scanned at 4K and downscaled to 1080p so it will be easier to work with. As this is from a professional, theatrical 35mm print and not a low-resolution Laserdisc scan there is more than enough detail to warrant all 1080 lines of resolution. It's not the same level as the negative, but the last page or so of discussion has highlighted why that's not altogether a bad thing.

team_negative1 said:

Maybe there is some way to combine them. But why? The Bluray already has the most detail overall.

Maybe someone can run the Diff tool on the current ones to check.

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 I think he means something like using the 2011/2004 until there's a change, then using 35mm. Essentially a top-quality Despecialized.

You mean use the colour data from the 35mm and image from the Blu. Until coming to an altered portion?

Red Dwarf said:

You mean use the colour data from the 35mm and image from the Blu. Until coming to an altered portion?

 Or actually layering it?

Most of the details about this project (Although there have been some updates), are in the first post.

Continuing with previews of Reel 6, here are some quick cuts from the Trench scene with Luke and Darth Vader.

These are very tricky to clean, as each model shot, has a different background for every frame. Every frame had dirt and marks on it, so they had to be painted out individually.

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Video clip:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4lE0iSbzjA71gbj1CD

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No Laserdisc, VHS, DVD or blu ray ever looked that good.

Thanks for the comments. To be fair, we did compare it to the bluray. And the Bluray is still better for detail.

However, we noticed there are some scenes which still have marks and dirt on them on the Bluray, especially during the trench scene.

On every frame of the sequence, there were dirt and dust, and other colored specks.

We will post some comparison shots with higher resolution stills, and much more detail on these.

Although this is low resolution, you should still be able to see how the cleanup is on it. The top is the original LPP, the bottom is the clean version.

Videoclip:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k65Ocuwkk54rlcbj2CV

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team_negative1 said:

Thanks for the comments. To be fair, we did compare it to the bluray. And the Bluray is still better for detail.

However, we noticed there are some scenes which still have marks and dirt on them on the Bluray, especially during the trench scene.

On every frame of the sequence, there were dirt and dust, and other colored specks.

We will post some comparison shots with higher resolution stills, and much more detail on these.

Although this is low resolution, you should still be able to see how the cleanup is on it. The top is the original LPP, the bottom is the clean version.

Videoclip:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k65Ocuwkk54rlcbj2CV

Team Negative1

 Hi all,

Long time lurker. Thought I'd sign up and post as I think it is great what Team Negative1 are doing here.

I've noticed a lot of talk about comparing this to the Blu-ray, if you understand the technical process of how these films are transferred from their dirty 35mm camera negatives to what you see when you pop in that disc... you'd see that comparing this to a blu-ray for quality/detail is just silly.

A company by the name of Lowry Digital who were responsible for the blu-ray transfers for the James Bond films, run the films through a digital film scanner that runs at a cost of about $300,000. They have over 700 terabytes of local storage and huge server farms. Not to mention the team that tackles all the footage once it has finished. I don't have much detail on how Star Wars was restored but I doubt it was anything less than this. 

Looking forward to it.

Oh don't worry, everyone around here is pretty familiar with Lowry Digital.

EDIT: A question for the Team: can you post a clip from one of the reels you've done a first correction/cleanup on? I think two was one of them. Nothing substantial, minute max, just to get an idea of what the finished product may look like?

And like, not a Dailymotion video, but uncompressed 1080p available to download to your hard drive. And yeah, I know you had that bit in the 8mm release, but that was like a few frames of dark, overly-cropped and downscaled footage.

Just think of it as something to tide us over and reassure us.

Spielrock said:

 

 Hi all,

A company by the name of Lowry Digital who were responsible for the blu-ray transfers for the James Bond films, run the films through a digital film scanner that runs at a cost of about $300,000. They have over 700 terabytes of local storage and huge server farms. Not to mention the team that tackles all the footage once it has finished. I don't have much detail on how Star Wars was restored but I doubt it was anything less than this. 

Looking forward to it.

Welcome!

What's really impressive is how Lowry manages to have the output they sometimes have with such incredible resources. I watched their "Thunderball" blu-ray recently. Man, what an inconsistent restoration.

You guys are truly making Star Wars history... Man, I can't even explain how happy I'll be when I can actually watch these films in original form in HD! Thank you from a long time Star Wars fan.

towne32 said:

Spielrock said:

 

 Hi all,

A company by the name of Lowry Digital who were responsible for the blu-ray transfers for the James Bond films, run the films through a digital film scanner that runs at a cost of about $300,000. They have over 700 terabytes of local storage and huge server farms. Not to mention the team that tackles all the footage once it has finished. I don't have much detail on how Star Wars was restored but I doubt it was anything less than this. 

Looking forward to it.

 

Welcome!

What's really impressive is how Lowry manages to have the output they sometimes have with such incredible resources. I watched their "Thunderball" blu-ray recently. Man, what an inconsistent restoration.

 Oh definitely, I'm not suggesting they're perfect. More so on the equipment used to achieve a nice clean up compared to what someone like Team Negative1 would have available to them. 

team_negative1 said:

Thanks for the comments. To be fair, we did compare it to the bluray. And the Bluray is still better for detail.

 So much for my idea of nicknaming the SW blu's the "blurrys". ;)

These samples of the Death Star attack are the first time some of us are seeing the shots that were redone in the special editions in HD. Absolutely fantastic!

team_negative1 said:

Thanks for the comments. To be fair, we did compare it to the bluray. And the Bluray is still better for detail.

However, we noticed there are some scenes which still have marks and dirt on them on the Bluray, especially during the trench scene.

On every frame of the sequence, there were dirt and dust, and other colored specks.

We will post some comparison shots with higher resolution stills, and much more detail on these.

Although this is low resolution, you should still be able to see how the cleanup is on it. The top is the original LPP, the bottom is the clean version.

Videoclip:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k65Ocuwkk54rlcbj2CV

Team Negative1

Actually, I used a little unsharp mask in ffdshow on the ESB grindhouse version and was surprised at how much more detailed it looked without it being obviously over-sharpened. Maybe that's not what you guys are going for in the end, but I wouldn't be surprised if they used some sharpening on the blu ray, considering everything else they did to it. So maybe that's another reason why the blu rays look more detailed.

Thanks for the upload!

In doing a comparison of the Death Star battle, and other scenes to the Bluray. Since these scenes have been recomposited, the LPP actually has more detail in them.

The Bluray backgrounds look smeared, and smoke and debris shots are also less detailed.

These are scenes without CGI in them. We will post some comparisons.

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I noticed that team_negative1 is now watermarking screen caps ..... has something transpired to make this necessary?

I hope all is well. 

Cheers!!!!