Tobar said:
Mavimao said:
Harmy had one, but I don't know how to search for it. In short, 35mm prints are copies of copies of copies. Each copy creates degreadation in the form of additional film grain. This grain eats up fine detail with each generation. The bluray, on the other hand, is directly from the film negative. So while its colors might be messed up, you can see the actors' pores, each individial hairs etc. The 35mm prints don't have all of this detail. Yes, there were meant to be shown on big screens, but they weren't meant to be pixel peeped.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Now obviously Legacy is working with the combined information of a number of different scans stacked onto each other. But it still is all based on various later generation prints.
The blu-ray which is supposed to be based from the negative is just awful in comparison.
To answer that specifically, the comparison that Mike does in that video, of the detail visible in the door frame is really interesting, that detail level is not there in the LPP print for instance, but is there on the IB Tech prints. It shows how even the prints can hold certain details that are not on the BD.
In this case however, it isn't that they did a bad job, or that the detail wasn't on the neg, that detail is less than one pixel high @ 1080P, so to give the Bluray a break (although it has many, many issues) this detail would be basically impossible to portray at BD resolutions. You really need a 4K version to be able to see that level of detail. At 2K the horizontal 'stripes' are less than a pixel in width, so by necessity end up lost in the lack of resolution, especially once you add the compression of Bluray into the equation.
There are areas on the BD where these is detail lacking on the prints, and vice versa. I have been happy with stacking multiple prints to rescue some of that detail from the grain noise, but ultimately, some of that detail *was never meant to be seen*. Just because it is on the neg, doesn't mean it was intended to be in the final product. Grading is done specifically (at times) to hide detail that is on the OCN, so that you don't for instance, see a matte line, or to hide skin blemishes, or to draw your eye to a particular part of frame etc.