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Star Wars ANH Bluray Semi-Despecialized & CC (JASWFP) V1 DONE (Released) — Page 2

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newguy said:

Introduction: just another star wars fan project

First of all i wanna say that I don't really follow the Star Wars fan edit scene so this might already be done and/or might not really be that interesting to most of you, but this a personal project of mine that I'm doing anyways so I thought I might as well share it here since some one might find it interesting.

Anyway, I saw Harmy's Despecialized version a few weeks ago and got really inspired of doing a similar project but for the version that I grew up with and actually prefer to the originals (expect for a few changes): the specialized editions. But as most of you are aware of the contrast and colors on the bluray are pretty much worthless so the focus of this release will be to make a complete color correction of the bluray as well as a few changes (only Han fires; CG rock, Jabba scene and some of the Mos Eisley CG will be removed) and it will be released and synced to the 97 theatrical DTS surround soundtrack. What I'm basically doing is what I think should have been the bluray release of Star Wars.

I will put a lot of effort in to provide the highest picture quality possible, that means that my whole workflow will be in a DI-format (Prores) and it will end up as a 1080p 25GB (single layer BD) file using x264 2pass slow preset. I've tested the workflow and quality wise it's pretty much transparent to the original bluray. The tools I will be using is Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Colorista II and avisynth.

ETA is when it's done. I have a full time job so dunno when I get time to finish it, been working with it for about a week now and I'm already 20min in, so lets hope that I will continue in that rate.

Color correction

I will do a cut/cut CC of the whole film, and it should be noted that this will not be a “regrade” of the film, I'm pretty much relying heavily on the RGB-parade, waveform and vectroscope to make sure that contrast is spot on in every scene, that objects that are supposed to be white are white and not green, blue or red (although it will probably be slightly on the warm side throughout the film), and that skin tones are on the skin tone line on the vectroscope throughout the film. So my objective is more to make sure the colors are accurate and not what I think look best/trying to imitate what the original print looked like. My first plan was actually use Harmy's version as a reference but I found pretty quickly that his CC and contrast are very inconsistence (no offense) and there are some scenes that have a lot of weird things going on color and contrast wise. I will also remove all the weird magenta smoke and flashes throughout the film. the GOUT will be used to some extent as a reference when it comes to shadow detail, exposure, smoke color etc.

Screen samples

I hope that I don't upset anyone when I include Harmy's version as a reference here, I figured that since they are so popular they should make a good reference. Since the first scene on tatooine look so much worse then the rest of the movie I ran it through MCTemporalDenoise, it's not perfect yet, but it looks much better then the original at least.

Order: Top(bluray), middle(Harmy's), bottom(mine)

http://share.pho.to/8rg92

 How much more work is needed until a release? And will it be released as a torrent or direct download?

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It won't be released until the Bunny makes another appearance next to the Burj Khalifa.

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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New screens of some blue hue removing http://share.pho.to/9EPOg

Stotchy said:

 Cool! Thanks.

What source will you be using to remove the CGI rocks from in front of R2?

As said above, the 1080p HDTV version.

Harmy said:

I have no problem with anyone using my stuff as a source for their projects, so feel free to use anything you may want.


And yes, I did the CC shot-by-shot based on a scan of an I.B. Technicolor print, which had a lot of color inconsistency and I must admit that if I was to do it over, I'd go for a bit more natural and consistent color-palette, much like what you're doing here.

 Thanks, so far I've only used the speeder scene from mos eisley and the censored blaster impact (were is this sourced from btw? The detail is on par with the bluray). Having a hard time to match the mos eisley scene with my version though, I wish I could get my hands on a non manipulated clip of this scene. Is the source for that from Team Negative1?

Ah, always thought of "working as  intended" as a possibility, since the rest of your work is so meticulous. The work i'm doing isn't really for "purists" though since I'm fixing some of the problems with the original (which imho should have been fixed in the SE), but if I would make a more purist version i probably just base it of the GOUT since it's color accuracy is pretty good, and just boost saturation and contrast.

Codemansaid:

How much more work is needed until a release? And will it be released as a torrent or direct download?

Dunno, there isnt that much work left though, just need some time in my schedule to finish it. It should be done within a month if I would have to guess.

I don't have any account on any direct download service so I'm guess I will put up a torrent and leave my computer on for a week and then see how it goes. When I have a "final" version of it (I guess I will have to change some things after feedback) and if there is any demand I will prob put it up for direct download.

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newguy said:

Stotchy said:

 Cool! Thanks.

What source will you be using to remove the CGI rocks from in front of R2?

As said above, the 1080p HDTV version.

Harmy said:

I have no problem with anyone using my stuff as a source for their projects, so feel free to use anything you may want.


And yes, I did the CC shot-by-shot based on a scan of an I.B. Technicolor print, which had a lot of color inconsistency and I must admit that if I was to do it over, I'd go for a bit more natural and consistent color-palette, much like what you're doing here.

 Thanks, so far I've only used the speeder scene from mos eisley and the censored blaster impact (were is this sourced from btw? The detail is on par with the bluray). Having a hard time to match the mos eisley scene with my version though, I wish I could get my hands on a non manipulated clip of this scene. Is the source for that from Team Negative1?

 I'd love a version of that Eisley scene without the color changes. Harmy got it to match his surrounding shots nicely. But it seems some parts have gone too far in one direction (sort of yellow?) and can't really be manipulated in the opposite direction as best as I can tell. In Harmy's making of video the version prior to the change would be really nice for other projects. Then again, it could be my display or an issue with the original scan.

It is indeed Team Negative sourced. But perhaps it's LaserSchwert's version you'd be after? (see https://youtu.be/dHfLX_TMduY?t=7m25s ). Team Negative will probably eventually have an even better version out.

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newguy said:

Harmy said:

I have no problem with anyone using my stuff as a source for their projects, so feel free to use anything you may want.


And yes, I did the CC shot-by-shot based on a scan of an I.B. Technicolor print, which had a lot of color inconsistency and I must admit that if I was to do it over, I'd go for a bit more natural and consistent color-palette, much like what you're doing here.

 Thanks, so far I've only used the speeder scene from mos eisley and the censored blaster impact (were is this sourced from btw? The detail is on par with the bluray).

https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/109609428403596349302/albums/5932164278535972945/5932166480978474338?pid=5932166480978474338&oid=109609428403596349302

https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/109609428403596349302/albums/5932164278535972945/5932166538969673938?pid=5932166538969673938&oid=109609428403596349302

Having a hard time to match the mos eisley scene with my version though, I wish I could get my hands on a non manipulated clip of this scene. Is the source for that from Team Negative1?

 I could provide the original clip if Team Negative 1 give their blessing but it has a lot of grain and dirt and it also has a big "Saving Star Wars" logo in the lower right corner, which I had to paint out.

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Update!

Pew, I'm finally finished with the CC :) I have a couple of more things to fix and then I'll have to rewatch the whole thing to see that everything looks ok, but then I'm pretty mutch ready for export and encoding :)

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newguy said:

Harmy said:

I have no problem with anyone using my stuff as a source for their projects, so feel free to use anything you may want.


And yes, I did the CC shot-by-shot based on a scan of an I.B. Technicolor print, which had a lot of color inconsistency and I must admit that if I was to do it over, I'd go for a bit more natural and consistent color-palette, much like what you're doing here.

 Thanks, so far I've only used the speeder scene from mos eisley and the censored blaster impact (were is this sourced from btw? The detail is on par with the bluray).

https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/109609428403596349302/albums/5932164278535972945/5932166480978474338?pid=5932166480978474338&oid=109609428403596349302

https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/109609428403596349302/albums/5932164278535972945/5932166538969673938?pid=5932166538969673938&oid=109609428403596349302

Having a hard time to match the mos eisley scene with my version though, I wish I could get my hands on a non manipulated clip of this scene. Is the source for that from Team Negative1?

 I could provide the original clip if Team Negative 1 give their blessing but it has a lot of grain and dirt and it also has a big "Saving Star Wars" logo in the lower right corner, which I had to paint out.

 That would be great, ty, I'll send u a PM!

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Your work with the colors is very nice!  Are you planning on doing this for just this film or for all of them?

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It would be great to see all 3 films done like this.  I'd be happy to upload it if you send me a disc to do it from.  PM me and let me know.

:)

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Can someone please explain the differences in the color correction and process here vs KK650's latest star wars 2.2 release? Screenshots of both look great.

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Also, earlier it was asked if you would release the complete Bluray with your color correction, and you said it might be possible. Would love to get my hands on that! Also excited to see your finished project as well. Congrats on getting so close to completion.

Preferred Saga:
1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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nightstalkerpoet said:

Also, earlier it was asked if you would release the complete Bluray with your color correction, and you said it might be possible. Would love to get my hands on that! Also excited to see your finished project as well. Congrats on getting so close to completion.

 I second that!

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Platitude said:

Your work with the colors is very nice!  Are you planning on doing this for just this film or for all of them?

Jetrell Fo said:

It would be great to see all 3 films done like this.  I'd be happy to upload it if you send me a disc to do it from.  PM me and let me know.

:)

 Dunno, this took me alot more time then i expected so I don't think so. But if there is a high demand of it I might rethink that.

Stotchy said:

Can someone please explain the differences in the color correction and process here vs KK650's latest star wars 2.2 release? Screenshots of both look great.

 I don't know KK650's workflow so I can't really answer that.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Also, earlier it was asked if you would release the complete Bluray with your color correction, and you said it might be possible. Would love to get my hands on that! Also excited to see your finished project as well. Congrats on getting so close to completion.

 I will upload this first to get some feedback, it takes some time to fix a uncut version so I dont wanna fo it twice if there is some problems with my CC etc.

Oh and by the way... I'm done! Exported and compressed and all. The version I have now is a 1920x816 23GiB MKV version with a DTS 5.1 sountrack. It fits a single layer bluray disc but the videostream is not bluray compatible. I guess that I will only upload one version so do you guys want that, or a bluray compatible verison in 1920x1080 (you will still have to build the bluray, but no need for a reencode)?

Still don't know the best way to upload it for you guys, if you have a good method feel free to send me a PM.

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1920x816 and Usenet please if possible :)

Darth Id on ‘Why “Ben”?’:

And while we’re at it, we need to figure out why they kept calling Mark Hamill’s character “Luke Skywalker,” since it’s my subjective opinion that his name is actually Schnarzle Shnuzzle.  It just doesn’t make sense!

Damn you George Lucas for never explaining why they all keep calling Schnarzle “Luke”!

Damn You!!!

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I play everything on Blu-Ray so I humbly request a full 1920x1080 file. Would prefer not to reencode and possibly lose quality. If it goes into BD-50 territory wouldn't bother me a bit. Also, are you going to include the DTS-HD lossless or just a DTS 5.1 file? I'm hoping the former as so much work went into this, might as well make the audio as great as can be too. :)

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Let us know when it's up!

Preferred Saga:
1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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Funcha said:

I play everything on Blu-Ray so I humbly request a full 1920x1080 file. Would prefer not to reencode and possibly lose quality. If it goes into BD-50 territory wouldn't bother me a bit. Also, are you going to include the DTS-HD lossless or just a DTS 5.1 file? I'm hoping the former as so much work went into this, might as well make the audio as great as can be too. :)

 I'm going to upload the version I got now at myspleen first. When I get some feedback I will upload a bluray compatible uncut version. I think this is a fair compromise. So if anyone have any special despecialize preferences they can make it themself with the uncut version if they enjoy my source. I really dont wanna upload four different versions of it straight away.

About the audio, it's 1509kbps DTS 5.1 audio. Considering the audio source (the 97 theatrical dts disc) is not that high def if think that it's just a waste of space with a larger audio format. And imo there just wont be any gain of going there. And I can say that the video compression is pretty good as is so I'm pretty happy about the encode as is (at 200% zoom it's pretty much visually transparent from what I see in the view finder in premiere, when I swap between sources I cant see any change in the picture). It could most likely look better on a artistic level (sharpening, contrast, colors etc), but that is more a mather of taste and the grade is most likley not perfect either since I dont have the tools or the time to be that accurate, but on a technical level it's imo as good as it gets considering the source (some scenes will just never look good, it's not like having a raw source), you can always go lossless and bigger but for the viewer that just is pointless in this case.

So I just need a invite for said torrent site and I should be good to go. So as soon as any kind person sends me a PM I will start the upload.

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Pm sent

Preferred Saga:
1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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nightstalkerpoet said:

Let us know when it's up!

 It's up, enjoy guys! 

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I hope this will be posted on any non-torrent site soon.

Darth Id on ‘Why “Ben”?’:

And while we’re at it, we need to figure out why they kept calling Mark Hamill’s character “Luke Skywalker,” since it’s my subjective opinion that his name is actually Schnarzle Shnuzzle.  It just doesn’t make sense!

Damn you George Lucas for never explaining why they all keep calling Schnarzle “Luke”!

Damn You!!!

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Torrent needs seeders please :D

Preferred Saga:
1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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Any chance of putting this on tehparadox too?

I've never been able to get an invite to MySpleen...

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Can you please advise where the HDTV, GOUT and Harmy's shots were used?

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Got a chance to skim a few sections last night and I think it looks beautiful. Everything just looks like it should to me. Been a very long time coming! By the way, newguy, do you have the original DTS-HD file that you could upload for those that may want to mux it in with the video? If not, no biggie.

Do you do your final encodes in Premiere? Looks great from what I saw. Still very much interested in the full Blu-Ray version if possible. :)