slask said:
I guess you live in a world where everyone's read SW books. How naive.
I guess you live in a world where everyone has seen (or cares about) PT.
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Harmy said:
No, we live in a world where the people who worked on the '97 SE read the books. If Corucsant in the '97SE was already a PT reference, then why did they have to alter it in 2004 to make it a PT reference?
I doubt in '97 the look of the city (better, of the Jedi temple and the Senate) was completed or definitive. They were added to make it more recognizable.
slask said:
I'm leaving
slask said:
I doubt in '97 the look of the city (better, of the Jedi temple and the Senate) was completed or definitive. They were added to make it more recognizable.
Because viewers would have so much trouble recognizing the city planet in the PT and the city planet in ROTJ '97 as being one and the same ...
slask said:
Harmy said:
No, we live in a world where the people who worked on the '97 SE read the books. If Corucsant in the '97SE was already a PT reference, then why did they have to alter it in 2004 to make it a PT reference?
I doubt in '97 the look of the city (better, of the Jedi temple and the Senate) was completed or definitive. They were added to make it more recognizable.
Perhaps Leorge Gucas wanted to include a shot of the city in the SE because he planned on using it in the prequels, but that doesn't make it a reference to them. They didn't exist yet. It'd be like saying that George Clooney's character during season 1 of Roseanne was a reference to him coming back in Season 4. You can't really reference something nonexistent from the future.
The Person in Question
Well in all fairness Lucas was already planning out the prequels while the SE's were being put together and he has claimed that the SE's were an experiment with new technology to see if he could do the prequels in addition to pleasing his 'vision'. So it's possible the appearance of Coruscant in ROTJ was intentional as perhaps it was designed to appear in TPM and Lucas wanted to test it out in a film.
I don't think anybody said it wasn't, only that you can't make a reference to something that doesn't exist yet. Since Coruscant firt appeared in the 97SE, the depiction of it in the prequels is the reference.
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slask said:
Harmy said:
No, we live in a world where the people who worked on the '97 SE read the books. If Corucsant in the '97SE was already a PT reference, then why did they have to alter it in 2004 to make it a PT reference?
I doubt in '97 the look of the city (better, of the Jedi temple and the Senate) was completed or definitive. They were added to make it more recognizable.
But after the Fall of the Jedi Order why would the Emperor let the Jedi temple remain intact? Shouldn't he say something like:
"This temple is a bad place! We will tear it down so that the evil evil evil Jedi will never return!"
Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
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^Were I Palpatine, I wouldn't tear the temple down. I'd convert it into a training centre for darksiders.
Of course, were I Palpatine, I also wouldn't have had a bunch of Force-sensitive children I could have brainwashed into loyal Dark Jedi followers needlessly slaughtered either.
DuracellEnergizer said:
^Were I Palpatine, I wouldn't tear the temple down. I'd convert it into a training centre for darksiders.
Of course, were I Palpatine, I also wouldn't have had a bunch of Force-sensitive children I could have brainwashed into loyal Dark Jedi followers needlessly slaughtered either.
There can only be two darksiders.... I guess
The Person in Question
That's a memo TCW and Rebels apparently never got. ;-)
So my next guess as to when we might even possibly hear an OOT announcement was Comic Con, but now there's a rumor going around that George himself might make an appearance.
I wasn't gonna get my hopes up, but hearing George is gonna be there kinda squelches even the faintest glimmer I had left.
ETA:
Actually, now that I think about it (just try and follow my logic here), maybe the reason GL is showing up is because they're planning on announcing the OOT restoration ahead of the convention, so that George won't get boos and hisses from the crowd....
... I'm really reaching here, aren't I....
Unless he's not bothered by that. Maybe he finds it funny or something that he would be present when the OOT is announced.
The Person in Question
That too.
It could be that he's there to announce his final version of the SE (from the Reliance 4k job we've been hearing about) and, to counter the "who %#*^ing cares" response that would follow from the comic con audience, Disney's also gonna announce a blu-ray set that includes the remastered originals.
I'm not holding my breath for this to actually happen, but it's one big, giant "could happen" in my mind.
Fang Zei said:
That too.
It could be that he's there to announce his final version of the SE (from the Reliance 4k job we've been hearing about) and, to counter the "who %#*^ing cares" response that would follow from the comic con audience, Disney's also gonna announce a blu-ray set that includes the remastered originals.
I'm not holding my breath for this to actually happen, but it's one big, giant "could happen" in my mind.
Yeah it's a bit of a stretch. That being said I don't feel that Lucas's desire to see the OOT limited to 4:3 letterbox extended beyond his own tenure at Lucasfilm. I can't see him being opposed to other people releasing it now that he has sold the company, or at least not opposed enough to try and do anything about it.
The Person in Question
moviefreakedmind said:
Fang Zei said:
That too.
It could be that he's there to announce his final version of the SE (from the Reliance 4k job we've been hearing about) and, to counter the "who %#*^ing cares" response that would follow from the comic con audience, Disney's also gonna announce a blu-ray set that includes the remastered originals.
I'm not holding my breath for this to actually happen, but it's one big, giant "could happen" in my mind.
Yeah it's a bit of a stretch. That being said I don't feel that Lucas's desire to see the OOT limited to 4:3 letterbox extended beyond his own tenure at Lucasfilm. I can't see him being opposed to other people releasing it now that he has sold the company, or at least not opposed enough to try and do anything about it.
Especially since his entire argument for reusing said letterbox transfer was "I don't want to spend any money remastering the old versions."
With Disney now in charge, he's lost even that excuse.
Fang Zei: Dang it, you got me interested in news from Comic Con. You're right, that would be a good time.
Man, Disney controlling the franchise and making a new trilogy seems to be "A New Hope" for the OOT.
(I'm sorry :D)
I always assumed that if they ever did it, they wouldn't announce it at an event-type situation because there's so much negative baggage about the whole thing. It's like admitting the company policy has been so completely stupid since 1997. Which it is, but you're not supposed to say that right to the customer's face.
Baronlando said:
I always assumed that if they ever did it, they wouldn't announce it at an event-type situation because there's so much negative baggage about the whole thing. It's like admitting the company policy has been so completely stupid since 1997. Which it is, but you're not supposed to say that right to the customer's face.
It'll probably just be a thing where whenever the next re-release comes out they'll tell us that the OOT is included in the more expensive edition or something.
The Person in Question
Waiting for the 40th anniversary of Star Wars, is probably the only hope that anything will ever be announced. But even that is a slim chance. We don't see it happening though. Not with Disney in charge.
Team Negative1
Always the pessimist....
Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…
We are realists.
Team Negative1
Let's play a little game here.
So Disney announces a Blade Runner-like Collector's Edition. It includes all cuts of the OT and PT and various bonus features and documentaries. What exactly would they include on the disc? What would be forever lost to the Star Wars annals?
I've listed all possible audio selections for each cut that I can think of. Since this would be a Blu-ray release, I think it's safe to assume that most every main mix would be mastered in DTS-HD MA while secondary/bonus mixes would be something like LPCM.
Since a lot of people are asking for SE to have branching, I'd also like to know how that would work on a technical level since the color and grain levels vary wildly with each newer release. What would be the "definitive" picture for the SE in terms of this?
Here is the list:
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
1997 SE
2004 SE
2011 SE
I imagine that the PT would be able to support seamless branching more so than any GOUT-97-04-11 kind of branching. This would include the Theatrical cuts of TPM and AOTC.
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
I'd also like to see a library of bonus features and documentaries like the 2004 Bonus Disc Empire of Dreams documentary and From Star Wars to Jedi (especially since they just uploaded it to Youtube). If Warner Bros. can squeeze all those Standard-Def featurettes and documentaries onto the third disc of my 30th Anniversary set, then I'm sure Disney can do something similar, possibly even with two discs instead of just one.
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team_negative1 said:
We are realists.
Team Negative1
Nice to know you all agree.
Team Frink
Well if we're gonna be realists I guess I'll give my 'realist' view on the subject. For the record this is strictly my opinion and is not an attempt to attract haters or to disregard the views of others here (though I've learned the hard way that I'm likely to attract that kind of response no matter what I say here). I seriously am not holding any glimmer of hope of a release of a remastered OOT. I say this for a number of reasons. Well some have mentioned the unlikelihood of a release of the OOT to tie in with the release of TFA since they just released the digital collection. I'm gonna have to agree with that crowd. Also there's the rumors that the OOT can't be released while Lucas is alive and if that's true how much further does this discussion go? Since we were cheated already with GOUT the likelihood seems even more distant. Also if these so called 'rumors' are true that the OOT is being restored why aren't we hearing more about it? The world is already practically finding out what's gonna happen in TFA so why nothing on a restored OOT?? I honestly think if it were to truly happen it either would have happened already, unless the GOUT is truly what some of you wanted with an OOT trilogy release, or we'd at least have a definitive and recent response on the subject from someone over at Lucasfilm. Again that's just my view of it. Perhaps my facts are eskewed and I'm not technically correct in some areas but from what I've gathered from all you and from my experiences as a long time OOT supporter that's how I feel. The only reason the OOT is gonna live on is because we the fans we'll make sure it survives. It may have Lucas' name on it but it is the people's film's now. Anyways that's as 'real' as I can put it guys.