4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 77

moviefreakedmind said:

Tobar said:

darklordoftech said:

If Disney ignores the prequels but keeps promoting the SEs, how are they going to explain who that ghost next to Yoda at the end of ROTJ is?

 First of all, it's still Lucasfilm, not Disney at the wheel.

Secondly, at Celebration there was a lot of prequel love. There was a clear undercurrent of resentment toward the current OT focus.

I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before it resumes infecting the rest of the franchise. It's already started in the Marvel comics.

 What were some examples of this?

The PT Appreciation Society got their panties in a twist.  

Man, I didn't get the feeling that there was a big call for a return to the PT focus at Celebration... maybe I missed a lot of stuff.

moviefreakedmind said:

Tobar said:

darklordoftech said:

If Disney ignores the prequels but keeps promoting the SEs, how are they going to explain who that ghost next to Yoda at the end of ROTJ is?

 First of all, it's still Lucasfilm, not Disney at the wheel.

Secondly, at Celebration there was a lot of prequel love. There was a clear undercurrent of resentment toward the current OT focus.

I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before it resumes infecting the rest of the franchise. It's already started in the Marvel comics.

 What were some examples of this?

-The Emperor saying:"Oh, you are truly the chosen one, Vader. Chosen to be the one RESPONSIBLE";

-Vader killing the Sand People before leaving Tatooine;

-Droidekas;

-Leia having a hallucination while looking at Queen Amidala's portrait;

This is just in Vader#1-2 and Leia#1, mind you: there are much more PT's references for sure. I didn't like them (some of them seem actually out of place), but to be fair, they kind of balanced them with other OT's references (after all, Di$ney want to reach every kind of fan).

TV's Frink said:

This thread is getting 4X worster...

 We are altering the thread. Pray we don't alter it any further /(D..D)\

Anyway, I think that if Di$ney smell the money, they're going to release the OT in some form, though I don't expect more than a GOUT 2.0: a new cheap way for them to make the most profit out of the originals' fans.

darklordoftech said:

John Doom said: The Emperor saying:"Oh, you are truly the chosen one, Vader. Chosen to be the one RESPONSIBLE";

Sounds like a mocking of the prophecy to me.

It is: the Emperor is mocking Vader because of the destruction of the Death Star. Still, that reference officially makes Vader the Chosen One even outside of the PT.

A Padme series? Sitting on a couch for 10 issues? :D I think it could only work if they decide who she really is: sad queen, sad senator, sad fighter or sad wife?

team_negative1 said:

There would be no money or profits in releasing the OT in 4k. It would take too long, and they don't have the budget to clear up the legal issues for it. Not to mention straightening out the political issues which are a bigger.

It's not going to happen. Not in any way that would satisfy the people here.

Team Negative

 I agree with you, but no need to be SO negative :D

team_negative1 said:

It would take too long, and they don't have the budget to clear up the legal issues for it. Not to mention straightening out the political issues which are a bigger.

 Will you defer your motion to allow a commission to explore the validity of your accusations? ;-)

team_negative1 said:

There would be no money or profits in releasing the OT in 4k. It would take too long, and they don't have the budget to clear up the legal issues for it. Not to mention straightening out the political issues which are a bigger.

It's not going to happen. Not in any way that would satisfy the people here.

Team Negative

Of course there is money to be made.  You are underestimating the demand for these.  Afterall, we're talking about the most popular movie saga in film history. Just about every Gen-X Star Wars fan would be interested in seeing a properly restored, theatrical trilogy, and as we've seen many times before with Star Wars home video releases, a huge number of fans who already purchased the blu-ray set would double dip on a new release.  

Not to put too much weight in anecdotal evidence, but in my own little corner of the world, every single friend of mine and everyone I have talked to that is over 35 years old or so, all say the exact same thing:  Just give us the original movies before all the SE crap.  None of my friends even own the blu-rays and they would all be first in line for an OT release.

Anecdotal evidence aside, just look at the recent social media ads and articles about the digital releases and you can get an idea of what fans want.  The facebook ads alone from the Star Wars fan page were completely dominated by comments from people wanting only the theatrical versions.

And Robert Harris has already stated that the restoration would be relatively easy, at least compared to other projects that he has worked on, and at a modest price. 

Again, this is freaking STAR WARS we are talking about.  The versions of these movies that ushered in one giant pop-culture phenomenon and defined the childhoods for countless people around the world are not currently available in a modern format.  Yes, the 2011 blu-rays sold well.  There was never any doubt they would.  But SW fans will buy any release that the studios put on the shelves, and just because someone owns the 2011 set doesn't mean they won't buy a new release. 

A brand new, 4k restoration of the unreleased theatrical trilogy would be a big deal to a significant number of fans. It would also come with a very simple and easily communicated marketing message, and thus, would be a big seller.

team_negative1 said:

There would be no money or profits in releasing the OT in 4k. It would take too long, and they don't have the budget to clear up the legal issues for it. Not to mention straightening out the political issues which are a bigger.

It's not going to happen. Not in any way that would satisfy the people here.

Team Negative

You need to speak for yourself. I think a lot of people would be satisfied with a Bladerunner-esque release of the unaltered versions that includes clean transfers OOT. Not everyone is going to deny a release of the films that isn't a perfect restoration. And unless you have some sort of insider information from one of the really high up officials in Lucasfilm then I doubt that you know any more about their budget, plans, or the legal situation than any of us do. 

The fact is we know Di$ney are going to move only if it's enough profitable for them. Sure we know there are a lot of people out there who want the theatrical versions, but how much valuable they are? Is the percentage of the OOT's fans big enough to persuade Di$ney to make a proper restoration? I'm not sure, but I think they're not. If that's the case, I think they'd try to sell them in the cheapest format, in order to maximize the profits: basically the new GOUT.

John Doom said:

The fact is we know Di$ney are going to move only if it's enough profitable for them. Sure we know there are a lot of people out there who want the theatrical versions, but how much valuable they are? Is the percentage of the OOT's fans big enough to persuade Di$ney to make a proper restoration? I'm not sure, but I think they're not. If that's the case, I think they'd try to sell them in the cheapest format, in order to maximize the profits: basically the new GOUT.

Luca$film are still managing Star Wars, I doubt Disney suits are going to get too involved with any OOT release as long as it isn't too costly. Cheapest format doesn't necessarily mean something like the GOUT, which was designed to be an insult. I mean, the Producer's Cut of Halloween 6 got a pretty decent blu ray transfer, and you and I both know that there is WAY less demand for that than there is for the OOT.

moviefreakedmind said:

John Doom said:

The fact is we know Di$ney are going to move only if it's enough profitable for them. Sure we know there are a lot of people out there who want the theatrical versions, but how much valuable they are? Is the percentage of the OOT's fans big enough to persuade Di$ney to make a proper restoration? I'm not sure, but I think they're not. If that's the case, I think they'd try to sell them in the cheapest format, in order to maximize the profits: basically the new GOUT.

Luca$film are still managing Star Wars, I doubt Disney suits are going to get too involved with any OOT release as long as it isn't too costly. Cheapest format doesn't necessarily mean something like the GOUT, which was designed to be an insult. I mean, the Producer's Cut of Halloween 6 got a pretty decent blu ray transfer, and you and I both know that there is WAY less demand for that than there is for the OOT.

 Wait a sec: are you saying it's Luca$$$film and not Di$ney? My hopes just went six feet under :D

What can we expect from Luca$$$film? Apparently the Guy is out of the picture, so probably no more "artistic decisions" (if that is what was keeping them from re-releasing the OOT), but why would they make a restoration, anyway? By now, their focus should be on restoring the OT and "upgrading" the PT to 4K, so I doubt they're going to make a proper OOT restoration.

generalfrevious said:

Therefore the real versions of the OT, the ones that were nade from 77-83, and were the official versions of the film until 1997, the products responsible for making George Lucas into a billionaire studio mogul, are condemned forever to obscurity, while the SE lives on. This shouldn't have happened.

(At least they are not lost like I feared)

 Which SE version, though? :D