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Point taken...although I don't know if that truly qualifies as a "PT reference."  It's not a PT reference the way that a damn Gungan shouting "Wessa free!" is...

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I kinda find the revamped Mos Eisley to be a prototype for Mos Espa

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Probably splitting hairs, but wasn't the first appearance of Coruscant in an EU story set after the OT, and published well before the prequels?

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Where were you in '77?

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Exactly. There are no PT references in 1997 SE.

Also imperial capital city appeared in Dark Forces in 1995.

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The way Zahn himself tells it, the idea of the capital city-planet itself already existed and was present in the West End Games RPG and its related books, and he used it since he'd been directed by Lucasfilm to tie his stories in with that material.

In the West End source, however, the planet's name was Imperial Center.  Finding this to be an unacceptable name for a planet, which should have its own culture and history and so on, Zahn came up with the name Coruscant as a derivation of 'coruscating', or glittering, as a reference to the many lights a gigantic city would produce.

In-universe, this discrepancy of naming is attributed to the Empire's revisionist portrayal of history.  Apparently, Palpatine changed the name of the planet to Imperial Center when he came to power, and it had only just been changed back to its original name when the New Republic decided to set up the government there.

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imperialscum said:

Exactly. There are no PT references in 1997 SE.

Also imperial capital city appeared in Dark Forces in 1995.

All that stuff is not canon, so yes, there are PT references.

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Corusaunt has been mentioned in Star Wars Legends long before TPM came out. In fact I remember in one of the documentaries has Lucas correct Jake Lloyd on how to say Corusaunt (In the clip he pronouned it cor-u-scant. To be fair, pre TPM games like Tie Fighter pronouced it that way also)

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I could be wrong but I think Coruscant was mentioned in the original novelization of Star Wars, I know Palpatine was (and his description is nothing like he ended up being in Jedi), but I think Coruscant was mentioned by name too.

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Again, the PT didn't exist in 1997.  If anything, you could say the PT made some references to the 97 SE.  It wouldn't make much sense to say that, but it makes even less sense to say it the other way around.

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slask said:

imperialscum said:

Exactly. There are no PT references in 1997 SE.

Also imperial capital city appeared in Dark Forces in 1995.

All that stuff is not canon, so yes, there are PT references.

As Frink already explained to you, that doesn't make any sense.

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Danfun128 said:

Corusaunt has been mentioned in Star Wars Legends long before TPM came out. In fact I remember in one of the documentaries has Lucas correct Jake Lloyd on how to say Corusaunt (In the clip he pronouned it cor-u-scant. To be fair, pre TPM games like Tie Fighter pronouced it that way also)

LOL. This has to be the only time Lucas' preferred pronunciation for something in his universe actually found its way into the films themselves.

As an aside, I'd just like to say I prefer the "scant" pronunciation over the "sant" one and continue to use it exclusively. Same with pronouncing the final syllable in Palpatine's name as "tyne" instead of "teen".

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TV's Frink said:

Again, the PT didn't exist in 1997.  If anything, you could say the PT made some references to the 97 SE.  It wouldn't make much sense to say that, but it makes even less sense to say it the other way around.

 What some of you fail to understand is that in 1997 ep. I WAS in production...     why on earth would Lucas include a shot of Coruscant, a city never mentioned in the OT, if not for a link to the prequels??

It's obvious, it was included because within 2 years people would have known Coruscant.

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slask said:

TV's Frink said:

Again, the PT didn't exist in 1997.  If anything, you could say the PT made some references to the 97 SE.  It wouldn't make much sense to say that, but it makes even less sense to say it the other way around.

 What some of you fail to understand is that in 1997 ep. I WAS in production...     why on earth would Lucas include a shot of Coruscant, a city never mentioned in the OT, if not for a link to the prequels??

It's obvious, it was included because within 2 years people would have known Coruscant.

What you fail to understand is that imperial capital (Coruscant) was already known before PT was even written, let alone in production.

The shot was simply a reference to Coruscant and not to PT.

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Imperial capital was not known by the general public, just by sw hardcore fans.

That shot is a prelude to what we would have seen in the PT.

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I thought the 4k thread was the worst one, but you're seriously making this one worster.

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The character of Darth Vader in the OT was a reference to Jake Lloyd

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moviefreakedmind said:

The character of Darth Vader in the OT was a reference to Jake Lloyd

If we follow slask's great "wisdom", OT itself is a PT reference.

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moviefreakedmind said:

The character of Darth Vader in the OT was a reference to Jake Lloyd

 Game, set, match.

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I guess you live in a world where everyone's read SW books. How naive.

I'm leaving, there's no way to find some good sense or logic here.
Let mr. imperialscum teach all of you about wisdom, he did a perfect job with his remarkable objective opinions...................

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No, we live in a world where the people who worked on the '97 SE read the books. If Corucsant in the '97SE was already a PT reference, then why did they have to alter it in 2004 to make it a PT reference?