The Scientology Thread (was: Ask the Ex-Scientologist Anything) — Page 4

Just letting everyone know I'm doing fine. Carry on.

I can't believe I missed that post you made earlier.  Glad to hear you're okay, at the least.  That's a terrible experience.

Just read through this. Wow. Stay strong, Neg. Bingo's post is dead on.

We may not be flesh-and-blood family, but we sure support you nonetheless.

Man, fuck all that depressing bullshit of the last whatever of posts. Here's some cool new shit.

Premiering on HBO on March 29th, is "Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief" directed by Academy Award winner Alex Gibney.

I saw the film tonight, limited 2-week run in NY LA & SF woot, had a blast. I wrote more about it over at FE and it has videos and links and stuff.

Adolfhipster said:

Please invite me, thanks

Ok. I've sent your name and address to the Scientology Mother Church. Agents will be picking you up momentarily. Say goodbye to family, friends and sanity. You're in Scientology now!!

Neglify said:

Adolfhipster said:

Please invite me, thanks

Ok. I've sent your name and address to the Scientology Mother Church. Agents will be picking you up momentarily. Say goodbye to family, friends and sanity. You're in Scientology now!!

Let me share some comedy among the group

 ''First time I heard the story of Scientology I was like, that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life, it was like: Hey, everybody there’s a space ship coming back, everybody’s getting sneakers, this is Tom Cruise...

And I said that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard, while simultaneously still kind of believing that a woman who never got fucked, had a baby that walked on water, died and came back three days later, so...''
Bill Burr

DuracellEnergizer said:

dclarkg said:

Neglify said:

Adolfhipster said:

Please invite me, thanks

Ok. I've sent your name and address to the Scientology Mother Church. Agents will be picking you up momentarily. Say goodbye to family, friends and sanity. You're in Scientology now!!

Let me share some comedy among the group

 ''First time I heard the story of Scientology I was like, that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life, it was like: Hey, everybody there’s a space ship coming back, everybody’s getting sneakers, this is Tom Cruise...

And I said that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard, while simultaneously still kind of believing that a woman who never got fucked, had a baby that walked on water, died and came back three days later, so...''
Bill Burr

*le sigh* 

Are you "French Warbler"? 

TV's Frink said:

Frenchler.

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Such an underrated movie. It's a shame that Murphy didn't take more roles like this one, and left the fat suits in the closet.

Well, he's always been a little "funny" that way... I mean did you see what he wore in his stand up specials? And there was that one time he was just "giving a ride" to a transsexual hooker... Honest, officer, I was just taking her back home heh heh heh heh...

Bowfinger may have been Murphy's last great comedy. I can't think of anything else after that tops it.

And yeah, I remember seeing it in the theater with my dad and the Scientology jokes went right over my head. I don't think my dad caught on because it was intentionally over-the-top and different.

This is a joke I made on a different forum, specifically for ex-Scientologists, but I felt like sharing it here. Although absolutely nobody here will understand it. But if you want, I'll explain it completely.

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You all want to know real inside Scientology shit? Wanna know how Scientologists talk to each other? Well here you go.

“I assessed an L4BRB on the pc, out-int read with an RS, but it was latent, so I had to keep the list correction going while doing a meter check. My TR 1 went out and I fumbled the command. The Senior C/S ordered me to video the session, or else I do Lowers. I’ll probably get a cram on that one. I hope he just writes an instruct to drill my next C/S, no Key Cramming Question is needed for this one. Every time I have to get my cram ruds flown, I try to make the meter read on PTP, so I can just itsa earlier-similar to F/N.”

Only real Scientologists will understand that joke.

All right then, here is over 1800 words explaining that paragraph...

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“I assessed an L4BRB on the pc…”

PC = Pre-Clear, someone who is receiving Scientology auditing (counseling) in order to achieve the State of Clear.

In auditing, is something goes wrong, the Auditor (counselor) will use a “prepared list” to sort out the problems. There were many different lists written by Hubbard for different auditing scenarios. You assess the list by reading out each question to the PC and noting if the meter reads (the needle reacts).

An “L4BRB” is a prepared list used when problems arise from “listing processes”. In auditing, sometimes the Auditor will ask the PC a very specific question and the PC will list out possible answers, with only one of them being the “item” (correct answer). An example of a listing question is, “What change has another caused in your life?” An example of a correct item for that list would be something like, “My mother abandoned me.” Upon finding the correct item you run a process to help alleviate the PC of the mis-emotion connected to the change. But, if the PC feels the item is incorrect or the process goes downhill, take out that L4BRB and sort out the problem.

L4 = List 4, presumably the fourth list he wrote. BRB = revision numbers, Hubbard would often revise his lists and use numbers like this to make it clear that the questions have been changed.

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“…out-int read with an RS…”

Out-Int. In order to understand this concept, you must believe in the idea that we are spiritual beings inhabiting meat bodies. With Scientology processing you can achieve “Exteriorization” and leave your body. If a PC goes Exterior during auditing and the process is continued, the PC can experience extreme discomfort and disorientation. The reason is that the PC can’t properly get back INTO his body, i.e. he can’t “interiorize” and is Out-Int.

Read = A reaction of the needle on the E-Meter.

RS = Rock Slam. One of many various needle reactions. An RS is a crazy, irregular left-right slashing motion of the needle. RSes repeat left and right slashes unevenly and savagely, faster than the eye easily follows. A rock slam means a hidden evil intention on the subject or question under auditing or discussion.

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“…but it was latent, so I had to keep the list correction going while doing a meter check.”

Latent read = a needle reaction after the end of the question. In auditing you are primarily concerned with “instant reads” which occur precisely at the end of your question. Even if it’s half a second after the end of your question, it is latent and not taken up. As well, “prior reads” occur before you finish your question and are ignored.

Meter check = When an RS appears in a session, no matter if instant or latent, the auditor needs to ensure it isn’t a false positive. If the PC is wearing metal rings it can cause a needle reaction similar to an RS. If the PC is twitching their fingers compulsively against the can, you can get the same reaction. As well, the meter might be low on charge or physically damaged, so there is a simple procedure to check if that’s the case. There is a small “meter check button” on every modern E-Meter, that when pressed will essentially break the connection between the meter and the PC. If you press the meter check button and the needle goes dead, the meter is fine. If you press the button and the needle is still slashing left-right, then the meter is broke son.

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“My TR 1 went out and I fumbled the command.”

TRs = Training Routines, a series of drills every Auditor undertakes before being allowed to audit. These drills teach you how to properly execute auditing commands and handle PC communication. TR 1 specifically addresses giving auditing commands. So when the Auditor asks, “Have you committed crimes against Scientology?” he is applying what he drilled on TR 1 in order to ask the question with correct volume, pitch, diction, intention, etc. If your TR 1 “goes out” it means you screwed something up, such as speaking too loud or soft, or you “fumbled the command” meaning you says “Climbs” instead of “Crimes” (or some such).

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“The Senior C/S ordered me to video the session, or else I do Lowers.”

Senior C/S = Senior Case Supervisor. A “Case Supervisor” is the one studying the worksheets of the session, the written record the Auditor keeps at all times during the session. The C/S reads over the worksheets of all PCs that got audited that day, checking to ensure the processes and procedures were done correctly without alterations. The C/S is sort of “the man behind the curtain” in that he/she directs the auditor on what processes need to be run, but the C/S never directly communicates with the PC. The C/S directs the Auditor, the Auditor directs the PC.

Video-recording sessions is often done so that the C/S can watch the session to ensure all TRs and E-Meter handling were done correctly. The C/S can also see if the Auditor omitted anything from the worksheets to cover up their errors.

Lowers = lower conditions. Hubbard devised a series of “Ethics Conditions” with a series of steps you must take in order to improve your statistics or overall performance. “Regular” conditions are, in order from bottom to top: Non-Existence, Danger, Emergency, Normal, Affluence, and Power. He made up a series of conditions below Non-Existence for times when serious screw-ups or crimes are committed. The lower conditions are, in order from bottom to top: Confusion, Treason, Enemy, Doubt, and Liability. If you are assigned Treason (for example) you need to work your way up the conditions until you finish Liability, which means doing extra manual labor or “dirty work” in order to make amends for your wrong-doings. I myself did countless sets of lower conditions in my 10 years working there. After a while you get the hang of them and know what to say in order to appease the higher-ups.

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“I’ll probably get a cram on that one. I hope he just writes an instruct to drill my next C/S, no Key Cramming Question is needed for this one.”

Cram = Cramming Order. When the C/S studies the sessions (or watches the video), if he/she sees an error in procedure, or out-TRs and wrong E-Meter handling, they will write a cram. The Auditor then goes to Division 5, Qualifications Division, and sees the Cramming Officer to go over what went wrong and re-study the correct Hubbard bulletins to clear up any confusion, or do more drilling to hone your skills.

Instruct = Less than a cram. It just simply says “re-read XYZ bulletin” or “redo ABC drill”.

“Drill your next C/S”. In this usage, the term C/S refers to the written directions the Case Supervisor wrote for you to do in your next session. Often, Auditors will pair up and do a dummy run of what they need to do for their next session, in order to make sure things go smoothly when they take their PC in next.

Key Cramming Question. When you see the Cramming Officer you get put on the E-Meter and asked “What situation did you run into that you had to invent something to do something about?” (I may be altering this slightly as I can’t exactly remember the wording.) Then the Auditor and the Cramming Officer figure out the exact point the session went off the rails and work out what the Auditor needs to re-study or drill. If you are given an Instruct, you don’t need to get a Cramming Interview and are not asked the Key Cramming Question.

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“Every time I have to get my cram ruds flown, I try to make the meter read on PTP, so I can just itsa earlier-similar to F/N.”

Cram ruds = Cramming Rudiments. In auditing, “rudiments” are a series of questions you ask the PC at the beginning of a session to ensure he/she isn’t pre-occupied with current problems. Asking rudiment questions and running the processes as needed is called “Flying the ruds”. The standard rudiment questions in a session are: “Do you have an ARC Break?” “Do you have a Present Time Problem?” “Has a Withhold been Missed?”

ARC Break = An upset, something that made you sad or angry. ARC = Affinity, Reality, Communication, the three basic elements of communication. Example: Mary said I was ugly.

Present Time Problem = Something happening “right now” that takes your attention away from the current session. Example: I’ve maxed out my credit cards paying for auditing and I don’t know how I’ll pay them off.

Missed Withhold = A withhold is when you do something bad and try to hide it. A withhold gets “missed” when someone almost finds out about it, but doesn’t, making you wonder whether or not they knew. Withholds can be as bland as “I stole a banana from the grocery store” or as big as “I embezzled funds from my company”.

In Cramming, there are additional rudiments to fly. “Is there Out-Int?” “Is there Out-List?” “Has there been any Invalidation?” “Has there been any Evaluation?”

Out-Int = Explained above.

Out-List = some sort of listing process went wrong, or maybe the Auditor is “Self-Listing” i.e. asking himself “What did I do wrong?” and making a list of everything he did wrong and tormenting himself trying to figure it out.

Invalidation = being told you are worthless, you’re scum, etc.

Evaluation = being told what to think about yourself. Example: The reason you can’t get results on your PC is because you have withholds.

“I try to make the meter read on PTP”… Auditors who understand how the E-Meter works can sometimes get the meter to react on what they want (or not react on what they want). Present Time Problem is the easiest rudiment to handle. As well, if you get off withholds in Cramming, if they’re severe enough, the Cramming Officer could write a report on you and you may have to do Lower Conditions.

Itsa = the PC answering the auditing question. The phrase comes from the idea that the Auditor asks a question, “What barriers to success do you face?” for example, and the PC rattling off things, “It’s a big black mass I can’t get past. It’s a picture of my grandmother beating me when I was two.” Etc.

Earlier-Similar = when running rudiments (and many other Scientology processes) the Auditor will have the PC talk about the issue and if he gets no relief from that, the auditor asks for an earlier-similar time that happened. “Is there an earlier-similar ARC Break/Problem/Missed Withhold/etc.?” You continue going earlier-similar until you experience relief.

F/N = Floating Needle, a needle reaction indicating that the process is finished and the PC has experienced relief or gotten rid of negative energy. A floating needle is a rhythmic sweep of the needle, back and forth, back and forth, at an even pace.