muddyknees2000 said:
No worries about disagreements. Discussion is what these forums are for. And speaking of which....I couldn't disagree more with the above statement. Star Wars in its very nature is about characters changing their outlook on life....flip-flopping as you say. The core of the 6 film saga has Anakin going from good to bad, and then back to good. Han in ANH at first doesn't give a damn about good causes and the idea of friends....he later changes his way of thinking and saves the day.....becoming one of these heroes he used to scoff at. And then there's Lando.....only looks out for himself, much like Han used to, until he also has a change of heart. In fact, I'd say that grey-area characters are what's most interesting about SW.
EDIT: One of the more interesting bits of AOTC (IMO) was when Dooku expresses regret that Qui-Gon isn't around anymore. I genuinely got a sense that the reckless Jedi that Qui-Gon was (*cough* should have been Obi) might have been a good friend to Dooku, and might have been sympathetic to some of his arguments. It lent more depth to an already dead character. The kind of depth that the PT needed way more of. I felt that it was one of the better character moments in a trilogy populated almost entirely with "people" I couldn't care less about (*cough* Grievous).
i understand what you are trying to say but...i just feel as though the whole point for ob1 and dooku's conversation was to:
1. give us a "Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son..." moment. but it was poorly executed.
2. try and make us believe that dooku is a good guy because he trained Quigon. but again this falls flat because he isnt a good guy. he is working with the flipp'n sith! he sold his soul to the devil. if he really wanted ob1 to join him, he would have told him then and there who the sith master was and let him go. but instead he stayed the villain and tried to kill everyone.
this isnt anything like han, lando or even vader. its not until the very end of ROTJ does vader turn good. han is at his core a good guy, and is presented as such throughout the movies. lando...well lando is just lando. but dooku is presented as a bad guy, he is always with the bad guys doing bad guy things and never once do any of his actions prove otherwise. so why would you have one short scene, give him a few lines that slightly suggest that he maybe, sort of, kinda, possibly, might be a little good. just to have him sentence our heroes to death 10mins later, pull a red bad guy lightsaber out, mame our heroes and then have full on "we're going to take over the world" conversations with the man we KNOW is evil.