Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 114

emanswfan said:

  I'm a little confused as to how they are going to make it look like stuff happened over the last 30 years, and yet not feel sad because the ST didn't come in the late 80's when it should have.

 The crawl!

Anyone considered a civil war within the Empire with a New Order taking control while a Sith led Empire still exists? It could be why we see the chaos in that shot where it looks like troopers are fighting troopers.

lpd said:

Anyone considered a civil war within the Empire with a New Order taking control while a Sith led Empire still exists? It could be why we see the chaos in that shot where it looks like troopers are fighting troopers.

 I think we're seeing John Boyega's Stormtrooper character fleeing his situation in that TIE Fighter in that scene. For better or worse that scene may harken back to Episode I where young Anakin is learning how to pilot a starfighter on the fly.

I don't think we'll be seeing anything about fighting within the First Order/Empire other than that scene in these sequels. 

Where would the "sith" even come from if both Palpatine and Vader are dead, and there is that stupid rule of two from the prequels?

nvm

This is silly.

"Spoiler-Free" Trailer

More pictures.  Is she on an AT-AT leg in the second?

SilverWook said:

That would jive with the rumor her character lives in a wrecked Imperial Walker.

 And the concept art, too.

Is it just me, or do they make ¡GONK! droids bigger thirty years after ROTJ?

I'm reassured by the replies about the galactic situation - i.e. that rumours suggest my fears were unfounded. I feel a lot better about the whole endeavour now, but I'm still not too enamoured of seeing an ageing Han gallivanting about. However, for some reason the spin-off films seem a lot more promising to me.

Is it too much to hope for Washbot now?

^It never was too much to ask for.

Dunno if this has already been brought up or not, pretty big thread.

The costuming reminds me of medieval Europe (Kylo looks very monk-like, the hilt swings him closer to feudal knight and away from feudal samurai). This makes me think the story draws from post-roman empire history for inspiration of what happened over the last 30 years. The first order may be more of a sith-based religious group, and they are in the middle of their own crusade for sith/jedi artifacts like Luke's lightsaber and Vaders helmet.

Although I do think that is Luke in the trailer looking at his fathers helmet, but that's just a hunch.

woofermazing said:

Dunno if this has already been brought up or not, pretty big thread.

The costuming reminds me of medieval Europe (Kylo looks very monk-like, the hilt swings him closer to feudal knight and away from feudal samurai). This makes me think the story draws from post-roman empire history for inspiration of what happened over the last 30 years. The first order may be more of a sith-based religious group, and they are in the middle of their own crusade for sith/jedi artifacts like Luke's lightsaber and Vaders helmet.

Although I do think that is Luke in the trailer looking at his fathers helmet, but that's just a hunch.

I'm not sure if that's the case. The teasers and leaked concept art don't show evidence of this.  I imagine they would have more guys with red lightsabers than stormtroopers.

One possibility that hasn't been entertained much is the First Order could be the former Rebels (they won the war and got all the Imperial kit which they have continued to finesse).

And the Resistance are the remains of the Empire.

They were thoroughly defeated and have turned to using the tools of their conquerors (X-Wings etc).

Not saying this is what's happening at all just pushing it as another serving suggestion.

The Republic had trooper armour like the Imperials so the Alliance in displacing the Imperials they may have reverted back to controlling the Galaxy with white plastic ground troops.

Maybe the price of victory was to become the enemy.

unamochilla2 said:

woofermazing said:

Dunno if this has already been brought up or not, pretty big thread.

The costuming reminds me of medieval Europe (Kylo looks very monk-like, the hilt swings him closer to feudal knight and away from feudal samurai). This makes me think the story draws from post-roman empire history for inspiration of what happened over the last 30 years. The first order may be more of a sith-based religious group, and they are in the middle of their own crusade for sith/jedi artifacts like Luke's lightsaber and Vaders helmet.

Although I do think that is Luke in the trailer looking at his fathers helmet, but that's just a hunch.

I'm not sure if that's the case. The teasers and leaked concept art don't show evidence of this.  I imagine they would have more guys with red lightsabers than stormtroopers.

*shudder*