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Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray? — Page 9

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I guess this answers this debate, or does it?? Anyways someone shared this in another thread.

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At least that intern acknowledged them properly.

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Even if Disney was planning to announce an OOT on blu-ray tomorrow, the company line would still be "there are no plans at this time."

Indeed, it's nice to at least see them acknowledged.

Still anyone's guess as to whether it'll happen this year or if they'll wait until 2017 or until the entire ST is finished. It might even be some random time we're not expecting just so Kathleen Kennedy can show a good quarterly statement to the suits at Disney.

The fact that we're not getting BS jargon from Lucasfilm like we were in '06 gives me some faint glimmer of hope.

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Fang Zei said:

Even if Disney was planning to announce an OOT on blu-ray tomorrow, the company line would still be "there are no plans at this time."

Indeed, it's nice to at least see them acknowledged.

Still anyone's guess as to whether it'll happen this year or if they'll wait until 2017 or until the entire ST is finished. It might even be some random time we're not expecting just so Kathleen Kennedy can show a good quarterly statement to the suits at Disney.

The fact that we're not getting BS jargon from Lucasfilm like we were in '06 gives me some faint glimmer of hope.

 Actually, I really appreciate this. They fully acknowledge them as the original versions (not simply unfinished rough cuts), they understand that the OOT is a part of their catalogue, they didn't mention a word about the creator's "True Vision". And keep in mind, this is only talking about DIGITAL releases

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poor XavierBC...

@Handman: i just noticed...  you think Aliens blu-ray is ridicolous??

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moviefreakedmind said:

Actually, I really appreciate this. They fully acknowledge them as the original versions (not simply unfinished rough cuts), they understand that the OOT is a part of their catalogue, they didn't mention a word about the creator's "True Vision". And keep in mind, this is only talking about DIGITAL releases

Talk about having the ability to see some form of glimmering light inside a giant turd. "I have only one leg and one arm but I can at least still take a crap..." ;)

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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I'm optimistic regarding the unaltered versions. The statement I was referring to doesn't strike me as shutting down any possibility of the OOT's release, unlike what the lovely Lynne Hale said back in 06

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I have to admit that things are not looking great for a UOT release this year IMHO, no mention whatsoever at the Celebration and I can't see Disney doing another Star Wars release so soon after these digital releases.

That answer where Disney says that 'there are no plans to release them at this time' is very worrying as well. Makes me wonder whether not releasing the UOT was part of the agreement when GL sold Lucasfilm to the mouse...

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kk650 said:

I have to admit that things are not looking great for a UOT release this year IMHO, no mention whatsoever at the Celebration and I can't see Disney doing another Star Wars release so soon after these digital releases.

That answer where Disney says that 'there are no plans to release them at this time' is very worrying as well. Makes me wonder whether not releasing the UOT was part of the agreement when GL sold Lucasfilm to the mouse...

"No plans at this time" means that no announcement has been made. If I'd have asked them if they'd be releasing the movies digitally the day before they announced the digital release they would have told me the same thing.

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Handman said:

slask said:

@Handman: i just noticed...  you think Aliens blu-ray is ridicolous??

http://notonbluray.com/blog/orange-and-teal/

Oh my..........    That list at the bottom of the page is pure nonsense. Recommending (crappy) dvds or (mediocre) first releases for The Terminator and Raiders of the Lost Ark is a crime.

Not liking/approving revisionism is one thing, seeing orange and teal everywhere is obsession. Besides, the guy makes a clumsy mix of dnr issues and color timing...

New digital scans may surprise people who are like "I remember exactly the original look of the movie back when I watched it in theatre, 30 years ago"...    but I guess these guys also remember if the projection was right balanced, or if the print for that screening was in good shape, right? So much modesty.....

I trust the director and the pristine quality of their supervised new transfers, rather than overrated photographic memory. I have a message for all those people out there: memory is like an old dvd or vhs, it can LIE.

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To each their own. But, you can't deny that the colors were heavily altered compared to literally every other release and other films of the period. That's what I cannot stand.

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The new color timing of Aliens doesn't bother me, honestly. I never saw a print of the movie and the leaps in picture quality more than make up for any problems I may or may not have with the color. It like the new look, even if it might not have looked that way in '86. At least I know for sure that Cameron wanted it looking this way for the blu-ray. We're still here several years later debating whether the color-timing (and lack of contrast) on the extended blu-ray of Fellowship of the Ring was actually what Peter Jackson intended.

What does annoy me is Cameron digitally erasing things like Lance Henriksen's visible torso in the final scene, or getting rid of the visible marks on the window from earlier takes when Ripley tries to break it with a chair. It's especially disappointing after his remarks on the SE of Star Wars. Apparently he draws the line at "cgi dinosaurs" as a revision of history, but erasing things that were already there is a-okay?

But even things like that don't pull me out of the movie. You'd have to know the film pretty damn well to notice it, something that cannot be said about the very obvious updates made to Star Wars.

Speaking of Raiders, was the erasure of the snake pit reflection Spielberg's idea or was it Lucas'?

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We will be restoring all 4 of the Raiders movies at some point from 35mm. The current releases are lacking, in both colors and other changes. It would be nice to also fix Alien, and possibly Terminator, and other classics.

As to whether Disney will ever release the Original trilogy, we have a vote of no confidence that they ever will. Even if a miracle happens, they will inevitably make mistakes, and release a subpar product. We really don't care if they consider it or not, considering the poor quality control they have always had.

Disney spells disaster for Star Wars. Period. Anyone hoping for anything good to come out of this arrangement is just wasting their efforts.

As usual, it's up to all of us, to do the real work, and save the movies properly.

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Negative 1: I guess I don't understand what exactly makes you assume that Disney is a death sentence for the OOT. I mean, there was enough demand for Lucas of all people to release it (as awful as the 06 dvd was) so I don't understand why you think that Lucasfilm under rational ownership would be more unreasonable than Lucas himself. As for your concerns about a subpar release, that's definitely something for all of us to worry about because Star Wars hasn't really ever been treated properly on home video.

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Well I am afraid releasing OOT is just far less profitable compared to doing other stuff (new films, books, games etc.)

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team_negative1 said:


As usual, it's up to all of us, to do the real work, and save the movies properly.

 I hope you're planning on saving the mermaid's gigantic boobs, because that's as important as all the other non-Star Wars stuff you mentioned.

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imperialscum said:

Well I am afraid releasing OOT is just far less profitable compared to doing other stuff (new films, books, games etc.)

What are you saying?? I don't even own a BluRay player but if owning one would be the only official way to watch a remastered OOT I would buy one in an instant!!

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The demand for the OOT has diminished, and dwindled to the point, where it's not even worth the bother of re-releasing it in any new formats.

Regardless of ownership rights, and privileges, and whatever Lucasfilm has to say about it.

Disney, won't have a option, and will never do a proper job with. Its just better to forget they even have anything to do with Star Wars, and move on with restoring the projects ourselves.

Just go to the Other Projects forum on this board, or any other, and you'll see endless complaints of Disney's handling of every project they have done. Yes, even Pixar Short films. (Not that we care about those).

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crissrudd4554 said:

imperialscum said:

Well I am afraid releasing OOT is just far less profitable compared to doing other stuff (new films, books, games etc.)

What are you saying?? I don't even own a BluRay player but if owning one would be the only official way to watch a remastered OOT I would buy one in an instant!!

I am sure they would make a great profit from you.

真実

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Has Disney fucked up anything that's not inherently their's, though? I know they don't have a particularly good track record with their own works, but what about those that they've acquired?

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If Disney can't manage to get out proper restorations of their own properties, they have no chance of getting someone else's right.

Why people continue to think they can ever get something right is a mystery in itself of gigantic proportions.

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In all fairness there is no answer to this debate since its impossible to make everyone happy. A rerelease of OOT is only gonna be met with open arms by the fans who want it but anger SE edition fans. As far as the OOT are not being profitable, why should we care if Disney releases it hence why does this topic exist??

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imperialscum said:

Well I am afraid releasing OOT is just far less profitable compared to doing other stuff (new films, books, games etc.)

 I agree with this when it comes to any kind of restoration, but I don't think that a barebones release would be too much of a distraction from their film plans

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team_negative1 said:

If Disney can't manage to get out proper restorations of their own properties, they have no chance of getting someone else's right.

Why people continue to think they can ever get something right is a mystery in itself of gigantic proportions.

Team Negative1

 But Disney bought Lucasfilm though, not just Star Wars. Lucasfilm still exists, so it isn't like the people in charge of the Snow White restoration will be overseeing Star Wars home video releases

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