4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 71

Darth Id said:

DominicCobb said:

...I have an itching feeling they're talking about the Reliance master

This is the forerunning hypothesis, by a mile.  Especially since the Reliance transfer would presumably have "Han shooting first" just because it would be scanned from physical elements, rather than the electronic house of horrors where Rubberhan resides.

(and, by the way, the colors are very effed in that just in different ways than the blu-ray).

 How so?

 

Mike Verta elaborates on the issues with the Reliance master in his vimeo clips. If you click on the one of R2 and 3P0 on the Death Star or the one with the stormtroopers running down the hallway, he does some interesting screenshot comparisons between the official blu-ray, the Reliance 4k job and his own restoration that uses a 4k scan of a technicolor print. The R2/3PO comparison even throws in the GOUT for good measure.

His conclusion is that while the Reliance work does improve things from the blu-ray somewhat, it's also a step back from some of the things the blu-ray actually got right.

Also, I think you're mistaken about "Greedo shooting first" being a completely digital change. That was done for the '97 "restoration" and would've therefore been filmed out to fresh 35mm negative and conformed with the movie just like the rest of the '97 changes. However, IIRC that change was simply an addition of frames from what was already there. So if we're to assume the reliance 4k job returned the Han/Greedo scene to its original form, they could've easily deleted those extra frames after scanning in the o-neg (which would still be conformed to the '97 version).

It was an addition of frames, but some original frames were also deleted at the same time.

I stand corrected, then.

If the rumor is true, I guess we'll find out whether the deleted original frames really were put into storage or not.

Harmy said:

Not necessarily - they could have just got those frames from a different 35mm source.

 Or they don't know better and left them out entirely.

Wasn't there a fresh scan of Jurassic Park done just for the 3D conversion? I wonder if that's what's going on here.

Maybe that's how this 4k job of Star Wars could've been done years ago without ever seeing the light of day. They might not have wanted people to see any of it, not even in nice 4k 2D, until the 3D conversion was finished.

Titanic's "dimensionalization" took more than a year. The total runtime of the OT is roughly twice Titanic's. If they'd held to their original schedule, we would only just have seen ANH 3D hit theaters a couple months ago. Maybe they "doubled their efforts" to get the entire OT done by the end of 2015.

SilverWook said:

Disney has been stiffing 3D fans stateside for a while. 

Yes.  All three of them.

(I *hate* 3D)

Which is better, 3D or 4K?  I'd normally say 4K is one better, but the letter designations* throw me off.

K is seven letters greater than D. Therefore, 4K is 17 better than 3D.

SilverWook said:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thread+crapping

Oh come on -- this entire 71-page thread is crap.  Which is why I do my business here and not in the real Harmy threads.

And 3D *sucks*

To be fair, this thread is pretty bad.  But I can't get behind the rest of that post.

towne32 said:

K is seven letters greater than D. Therefore, 4K is 17 better than 3D.

 Makes perfect sense to me.  I can't wait for this 17 better format.

If this thread were to be moved to Off Topic, which is a legitimate outhouse, then it would fit right in.

hairy_hen said:

If this thread were to be moved to Off Topic, which is a legitimate outhouse, then it would fit right in.

 Thank you for using "legitimate" and not "literal."

TV's Frink said:

hairy_hen said:

If this thread were to be moved to Off Topic, which is a legitimate outhouse, then it would fit right in.

 Thank you for using "legitimate" and not "literal."

 That's literally legitimate. Now in 4K.

Is "legitimate" 17 better than "literal"?

DON'T ANSWER THAT UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO TO JAIL.