Warbler said:

Perhaps warnings when someone is deliberately not respecting the rules of a thread and so do so very repeatedly, they should be warned multiple times and get a temp and if they still won't listen: perm ban.

That is the kind of issue that makes me oppose moderation of OT.

I did once support the idea of getting rid of someone who is a bother to most of us; but we've worked pretty well - being able to ignore and shun such a person.

we have. We have had multiple trolls and other offenders. There is only one time in my memory when we united together and all ignored the guy until he left and it took a long while. It doesn't usually work because we are unable to get the united front. Meanwhile banning them would do the job much quicker.

It was the success of that campaign that made me change my mind. There is a certain point where even the biggest troll just isn't having fun anymore, even if the methods are not as quick easy, or seductive. And don't forget, the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. (I know that doesn't make any sense in this context.)

I see too many downsides - let alone how annoying it would be, for Wook, to make the kind of subjective calls each person has in mind.

I guess you missed the part where I suggested appointing someone specifically to moderate the off topic section and then I nominated Frink.

Frink did have some good ideas for moderation. I'd nominate myself, nobody would see a ban coming.

light moderation XD (sorry to Warbler, if he still cannot watch youtube :/)