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Star Wars Digital HD Release .... April 10th — Page 7
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NeverarGreat said:
God I hope that's not what plays before TFA. Awkwardly truncated Williams music would be a rough opening.
It sounded like it was supposed to have something lead into it. Maybe something accompanying a Disney logo?
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Han Solo IRL said:
NeverarGreat said:
God I hope that's not what plays before TFA. Awkwardly truncated Williams music would be a rough opening.
It sounded like it was supposed to have something lead into it. Maybe something accompanying a Disney logo?
It was supposed to have the entire ESB credits lead into it.
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msycamore said:
You have to suffer from what resembles the battered wife syndrome in order to still support this franchise.
I like you man, but this is almost as bad as the awful rape analogy some people use. Not being able to watch a movie does not compare in the slightest.
On the device I'm on your text is all in black. I don't know, I'm at the beach sunbathing waiting for the digital release, so it might just be my vision from too much sun.
Anyway, I'm sorry if my rather hyperbolic comment offended you or anyone else, and thanks Bingowings for understanding my view. It was an analogy, poor perhaps, yes but I definitely see similarities (albeit of a much less serious kind of course) with it and the star wars fandom due to way Lucasfilm treats its fanbase.
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Bingowings said:
Do we have to explain that the word rape means more than forced sex to you again Frink?
It means spoiled, ruined, contaminated "rape of the forest etc". The sexual aspect is just one use of a perfectly valid word.
The analogy he uses is sound albeit arch.
One clings on to a happy memory while repeatedly being insulted and disrespected by the provider of that happier time.
It's an analogy not an exact parallel.
If you want to keep defending things like this, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.
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msycamore said:
TV's Frink said:
msycamore said:
You have to suffer from what resembles the battered wife syndrome in order to still support this franchise.
I like you man, but this is almost as bad as the awful rape analogy some people use. Not being able to watch a movie does not compare in the slightest.
On the device I'm on your text is all in black. I don't know, I'm at the beach sunbathing waiting for the digital release, so it might just be my vision from too much sun.
Yeah, you can blame the forum's crappy text editor for that.
I don't get the disdain for digital versions of movies. They're pretty handy when you are stuck in an airport or bedridden with food poisoning.
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Perhaps the broader term "abusive relationship" would be more apt. They keep pushing something we don't want while withholding the thing we do, but we keep paying for the inferior product.
I know I won't get this. I already have digital versions of Harmy's work and that'll do just fine.
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SilverWook said:
Apparently they have ditched the Fox logo and fanfare...
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/04/the-star-wars-saga-digital-release-has-a-new-fanfare-before-the-films/
https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars/status/586387893318369280/video/1
Star Wars still has it's Fox.
Amazing... when I first ruminated on what Disney would come up with to replace the Fox Fanfare, I concluded that it'd probably be some stock snippet of one of the more triumphant moments from John Williams' OT scores. I think I even thought of this exact snippet. But then I immediately dismissed the possibility out of hand as being "too lazy."
Let that be a lesson to me, I guess.
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SilverWook said:
Apparently they have ditched the Fox logo and fanfare...
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/04/the-star-wars-saga-digital-release-has-a-new-fanfare-before-the-films/
https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars/status/586387893318369280/video/1
Star Wars still has it's Fox.
Strange. I was expected the standard disney intro, then the lucasfilm limited logo with no music, like what CBS/FOX did with PAL releases of the OUT here. Perhaps something like this, but without the Bad Robot logo of course.
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I'm surprised they didn't have Williams write a short fanfare. They went through the trouble of having him write original music for the teaser. This clumsy edit sounds like a mistake.
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DominicCobb said:
I stand by my belief that a low key rendition of the force theme would do just fine as a fanfare.
Agreed. That would be roughly 10,000% better than what they've done. As it is now, it clashes horrendously with the bombast of the main theme which comes in just seconds later.
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TV's Frink said:
Bingowings said:
Do we have to explain that the word rape means more than forced sex to you again Frink?
It means spoiled, ruined, contaminated "rape of the forest etc". The sexual aspect is just one use of a perfectly valid word.
The analogy he uses is sound albeit arch.
One clings on to a happy memory while repeatedly being insulted and disrespected by the provider of that happier time.
It's an analogy not an exact parallel.
If you want to keep defending things like this, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.
That's the spirit x
Bizarre as it may initially sound the LucasNoise droning sound works rather well as a build up to the first brassy blasts of the main theme.
Maybe that with a new Lucasfilm logo would do the necessary.
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It makes me so happy that they are advertising the movies without the episode number!
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unamochilla2 said:
I'm surprised they didn't have Williams write a short fanfare. They went through the trouble of having him write original music for the teaser. This clumsy edit sounds like a mistake.
I still hope this is what turns out to be the truth in December, and the release of the Specialest Editions (from the new 4K master) have that.
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Even a neophyte fan editor could do a better job editing Williams' score than was done here.
Besides my personal bias against using the r word, it's become a joke and an insult intended to shut down any serious discussion by those on the other side of the OOT argument. There are better analogies one can use, even if they are more verbose.
Where were you in '77?
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I'm curious now as to why they didn't just leave well enough alone. Obviously they wanted the Fox logo completely gone, but I'm guessing they wouldn't allow it to be taken off ANH as part of whatever deal they made with Disney.
So now when people watch these digital versions in "saga" order they go from three movies of just the Lucasfilm logo (now with an edit of Williams' music from the end of ESB's end credits) to one movie presumably opening the way it always has (more or less) to two more movies with this new intro.
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towne32 said:
Han Solo IRL said:
NeverarGreat said:
God I hope that's not what plays before TFA. Awkwardly truncated Williams music would be a rough opening.
It sounded like it was supposed to have something lead into it. Maybe something accompanying a Disney logo?
It was supposed to have the entire ESB credits lead into it.
Yes I know that it's from TESB.
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Fang Zei said:
I'm curious now as to why they didn't just leave well enough alone. Obviously they wanted the Fox logo completely gone, but I'm guessing they wouldn't allow it to be taken off ANH as part of whatever deal they made with Disney.
Fox is the distributor of ANH, so it's expected that they would keep their own logo.
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Fox distributed them all.
I think it's more a who put up how much for what thing.
Fox put up almost all for Star Wars (1977) and chucked a load at George when he went over the projected budget for ESB.
From then on in I think they had very little hands on involvement with the actual production of the films.
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Those intros from the OOT are still the best though (I like the green Lucasfilm logo from the 70s). Of course the changes to the intros are universally negative, just like nearly any change to the OT. But I think that new intro is awful too.
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IIRC, all SW merchandise before ESB bore a 20th Century Fox copyright. (Even though George was shrewd enough to get the merchandising rights from the beginning.) When I was a kid, it took a while to figure out what the letters TCFFC on a Kenner action figure's leg meant.
Where were you in '77?
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Just thought if this release has support for multiple languages. Finding a matching English Dolby 5.1 and Spanish Dolby 5.1 mixes would allow extraction of the voices and music as separate elements, which is an absolute necessity for PT edits.
Any know if the specs on any of the digital formats have two different languages both in Dolby 5.1 so I could test it out?
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Ooh, that is a good point!^ It could be a very valuable tool for editors!
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Bingowings said:
Fox distributed them all.
Back then, not now. For this digital release, they are only distributing ANH (it's the only one they still have the rights to distribute). Hence why it still retains the logo and Disney can't sell it on their own service.