Of course I understood perfectly well you were talking about Bane's overall garb, but since you first SPECIFICALLY spoke of his hat, that's why I SPECIFICALLY chose to defend that - I hope you understand that now.

Then I did eventually bring up the design of the Duros species too (it was different enough from discussing that hat and attire) since that would ALSO be included in the overall "campy", "caricature", "design" argument you brought up, so I opted to defend that as well.

That's how it was for the rest of the debate too: You mentioned his character to be boring and non-threatening, so that's why I even tried to give you examples in TCW to defend why I felt that's untrue, whether or not in your mind you consider that moot.

You didn't seem to think this character can be ported over into the live-action medium, so then I tried expressing how I strongly believe that's actually untrue and how the live-action version would also appear DIFFERENTLY (on so many levels) than how we know it in TCW.

Anyway, I have no problem with you having your own opinions about Cad Bane, but because you stated several negative opinions about a generally-like character, well, naturally I was curious why. I wanted good reasons why YOU felt that way, and then I was dishing out several of MY counterarguments for the other side of the coin. It was up to you if you'd let it sway you and perhaps even cause you to reconsider some of your own opinions, which is always a possibility...

But anyway, this debate has of course gone on far too long than it really needed, and it's becoming rather stale at this point - it's just too bad that it doesn't seem like anything was accomplished by it all. Let's end it with that.