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Post #762401

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brash_stryker
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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9-Apr-2015, 7:34 PM

Going to have to forego the quoting game, as it's too much effort. Apologies.

You seem to be misunderstanding what I mean when I say cartoony. I don't mean the literal art style and proportions of characters. Of course they're cartoony....it's a CARTOON.

The same goes for my campy comment. You took me out of context and showed that picture of a sinister looking Duros to contradict me, but it's without the campy cowboy getup which is my main point of contention, though the fact that he's a bright blue alien with it doesn't help matters. 

Star Wars draws a lot of inspiration from earth stuff. Of course it does, that's unavoidable. I just think a cowboy hat is too blatant a homage. It just looks silly in my opinion. Especially on a blue alien. Though it seems this is the very reason you think it DOES work, and I respect your opinion. I'm definitely not going to get into any argument based on your speculation as to the fictional reasons Duros might wear hats though. 

I've never once said that characters from animation can't be ported over to other mediums. You seem intent on making out I have, but I can't find anywhere where that's even implied. I merely expressed it about this particular one. I doubt I'm alone. You also seem unable to differentiate between my dislike for the character in TCW, and my opinion that his appearance makes him unsuitable for Revisited. You've said I'm now "backtracking" or "narrowing down" my reasons for disliking the character. Not at all. I still think the character was one dimensional and boring with cliched lines, voice and no character development whatsoever. But none of that matters when it comes to Revisited as it's only his appearance (which includes his attire) that's relevant there, which is why I've not mentioned any of that other stuff since my initial post mentioning my dislike of TCW.
Incidentally though, you're bringing up Bane's actions in the show. These aren't relevant when it comes to our point of discussion - you thinking he would be a good fit for Revisited. When I referred to him having 'Kids' show' written all over him, again, I was referring to his appearance (is it sinking in yet?) Were Cad Bane added to Revisited, he would be a blank slate, so anything he's done in the show is irrelevant.

There are so many things you're quoting out of context I can't even keep track. No, I know there are no blue people on earth. Thanks for clearing that one up. I was referring to his outfit. 

Likewise, I mentioned Zabraks and Twileks as examples because it wouldn't be a rubber mask, it would be makeup. Yknow....allowing the actor to....act and emote. And the audience to relate in ways they couldn't otherwise. A rubber mask which is meant to be the character's actual face is not comparable to a helmet/mask with an implied face beneath or a droid without any face at all. There's no point even attempting to compare the two as they are completely different. We don't question that Vader is wearing a helmet. It IS in actuality a helmet and this adds an air of mystery and menace simply because we don't know what's under there.
With a rubber face, there is no mystery. It's the alien's face. More likely than not, it won't be mouthing words properly and won't be emoting. "But aliens might emote differently" I hear you say. Fine. I still think he looks stupid in his cowboy outfit. Or perhaps you think Ady should put in months of work making the face more animated. Well I hate to break it to you, but adding expressions to a Duros, or blinks to a Rodian are one thing, but animating full speech needs existing puppeteering/animatronics to use as a starting point to look good. CG mouth replacements are a lot of work and as far as I know, beyond the scope of this edit.

Yes, there were Duros in ANH and they weren't CG. They were also background extras! Had they tried making them more prominent with spoken dialogue, they'd have run into serious problems selling them as real. It would have looked cheap as hell, even without a cowboy hat.

I've listed my reasons I think he's unsuitable in appearance for Revisited. I've also touched briefly on my dislike of the character in TCW, and my dislike of the show in general so there's not much else to say. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Okay, just one quote. First one is me, second your reply:

Also, I agree that not everything from the PT was bad, and I do have an open mind already.

If that were true, then I simply don't understand why you have been gathering EVERY possible excuse you can grab onto for not wanting to like the Bane character, and why you choose not to see even the slightest potential he can have in live-action.

So because I dislike a cartoon character, that means I'm closed minded. Lol. Ok. You've convinced me. I'll stop looking for excuses and allow the light of Cad Bane into my life. ;)