imperialscum said:
darth_ender said:
See, you say you are not insulting, but every word is arrogant, every comment absolutely correct. Here, let me chat for a moment. Yes, grammatically, both words you underlined are technically imperative in nature. That does not make them demands. He asked kindly, with pleases in both cases and a thank you to follow. I spoke to a doctor earlier this shift and asked for an order of medication. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but if I said, "Please give me something else for this woman's nausea. What I'm giving doesn't seem to help." Did I order the doctor around? Would he be offended that I, the nurse, commanded him to do something? Nope, because in spite of it's grammatical construction, I did not actually demand anything of him.
I am very pleased that you admit that it was grammatically a command.
You gave a bad analogy though. A very good analogy would be if you said to the doctor "Please don't treat this patient, you can treat the one over there instead". This one has all the elements: (1) asking doctor not to do his function (analogy to thread's function), (2) asking him to move to some other patient (analogy to moving to the other thread), and (3) making commands when you are in no position to do so.
I don't see how your analogy, which only has one additional criterium, is so much better than mine. The crucial aspect was that you claim an inappropriate order was made. I pointed out that if I had made what was technically a sentence with a command in it, but I had done it in the same way Warbler had, it would not have been demanding in nature. I could have added to my example about the nausea, "And please don't order Reglan, she'd like Phenergan instead," and thus it would meet all the criteria you insist upon and still not be rude. Conversations do in fact go that way with mutual respect between the physician and nurse, and yet commanding sentence structure still exists. My ultimate point is that such structure does not equal a demand, but is still essentially a polite request, and the fact that you continue to cling to technicalities in order to justify what in fact was rudeness on your part, all the while ignoring more substantial arguments against your actions (and this has been going on for the past several topics we've debated), proves that you are an idiot. Sorry.