Warbler said:
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Leonardo said:
Warbler said:
I guess one of the reasons I don't is that I suck at humor. But I do believe there times and situations when wit, dry or otherwise, doesn't belong in political/relgious subjects. These can be very sensitive subjects sometimes one must proceed with caution.
I disagree. One of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate, one should be able to have a laugh even at very serious matters. Nothing should ever be "untouchable", because if you can't joke about X then you can't joke about Y, Z and so on. Then what?
first you say one of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate, then you say nothing should be untouchable? really? I'm sorry, some things shouldn't be desecrated.
Be specific. Discuss your claim.
I am not saying you can never have a laugh with serious subject, I am just saying that there are some situations where making a joke is not right or appropiate.
Same as above. Tell me where is that written.
And why is it wrong to proceed with caution when dealing with sensitive subjects?
as for where to draw the line, I think you are smart enough to realize that there are some subjects that are sensitive and touchy and some that are not.
Maybe I'm not, maybe I'm a dumb cunt. Don't patronize me.
I don't trust anyone who takes life too seriously.
well then I guess you don't trust me.
Yes. I mean you no harm, but you sound like a stuffy old bore. Have fun sighing your way to the grave.
If your faith/opinions are strong, no joke will bother you, small or big, tasteful or tasteless.
that is just simply untrue. It is true no joke would be able to shake your faith, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't bother or offend you.
Then what? You get offended and then what? Your nose bleeds? Your spleen ruptures, your ankle catches fire?
Or do you suck it up and get on with your life?
Oh, there's another option, isn't there? Winging. Wonderful.
I don't know much about Salman Rushdie, but I can't I like his attitude much. This isn't about whether someone has the right to go through life without being offended, of course they don't. This is about whether it is right to offend someone and whether someone has the right to feel offended. Would it be unreasonable to him for an African American to be offended by someone calling him the the n-word? Is it right to call an African American that word? Would it be unreasonable to him for a Jewish person to be offended by someone making a joke about the Holocaust? Is it right to make such a joke? Of course no one has the right to burn down bookstore cause they are offended by some book! But that doesn't mean they don't have the right to be offended and say that they are offended. And I don't think I give up the right to be offended by something in a book just because I read the whole thing through. Even if a book a offends you, it makes sense to read the whole thing through, that way you fully understand what it is saying. It also lowers the chance of misunderstandings. Sometimes one can think something in a book is offensive, but they'd read through the whole book, they'd realize they were wrong. Or do you think I should stop reading a post the moment when I see something that offends me? That I shouldn't read to the whole post make sure I understand what the person is say?
and I would someone would care about the Jewish person being offended at a joke about the Holocause. If not, there is something wrong with society.
I don't know anything about him either, I just found a quote I liked and posted it.
Yes, I have the right to offend you.
Yes, you have the right to be offended.
Yes, me and everyone else in the world have the right to not give a shit about it.
No, no one asked you to move this conversation here.