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The Audio Preservation Thread — Page 17

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skoal said:

TServo, can you rip your Jaws for comparison?

I do not have a laserdisc player, nor any laserdiscs of Jaws. To be honest, I don't own the film in any format. Sorry about that...

As to whether you can hear Brody say "bitch", I saw a beautiful 35mm repertory print last summer, with the mono mix and without any digital cleanup or color regrading. I swear I just heard "Smile, you son of a *BANG!*" But I could be wrong...

If any of us do have the laserdiscs, can they check how audible "bitch" is on theirs?

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Yes, we need to compare the mono mixes to see if anything was altered (much) because (I think) the Jaws Blu-Ray is probably very good, even the mono mix.

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If any of us do have the laserdiscs, can they check how audible "bitch" is on theirs?

 

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TServo2049 said:

Do you mean the Signature Collection LD, not DVD? I thought the Signature Collection LD PCM for The Thing was already preserved, bit-perfect, for the spoRv project? It's listed on the first post. I feel like if it had the music replaced, it would have been brought up during the making of spoRv, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to check.

 All the information you need on The Thing is here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Thing-1982-sound-mixes/topic/15709/

Short answer: While the earlier 1990 laserdisc suffered from the altered soundtrack, the 1998 signature edition restores the correct original mix. It is this version which I synced for the spoRv project.

As for the mono on Jaws, I only have the 1992 disc to refer to; while the music substitution is regrettable, the "bitch" is loud and clear! Hopefully someone can source the signature mix for a (presumably) ideal track...

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Jaws: I have the 30th anniv DVD, BD and 1992 "rescored music" credit WS LD. Someone once said in a review that they thought the climactic line may have been remixed on the LD along with the different music additions. I've personally checked and the music is different, but haven't checked the final line before.

As I understood it, Uni was too cheap to pay music licensing and would re-score source cues and potentially remix the audio. The 1995 signature LD restored the original music and should be the original mono in PCM. I figured the DVD was a lossy port of this, and the BD a slightly higher res copy.

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captainsolo said:

As I understood it, Uni was too cheap to pay music licensing and would re-score source cues and potentially remix the audio. The 1995 signature LD restored the original music and should be the original mono in PCM. I figured the DVD was a lossy port of this, and the BD a slightly higher res copy.

 There was a piece of music that was replaced in The Invisible Man in the scene where Griffin sneaks into Kemp's house and every release of the film until the BluRay and 2014 DVD had the replaced song. As a result there were a few sound effects missing from the rescored version such as the sound of the door closing as Griffin enters the house.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

i hope no one forgot about the halloween 4 and 5 original audio question. i just don't what to see it buried. 

You know you are starting to get real annoying fast, making posts in the wrong threads and then throwing this out there, I have a suggestion, why don't you find the damn LD's and then we can talk, Jetrell and I are looking all over the place we, the 2 of us can only do so much, these 2 may not ever become available to us, so back off and you help search for crying out loud.

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sorry i guess i doing everything wrong i don't know what you guys want me to do on here. help me i'm obivously too stupid to figure out what i'm doing wrong.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

sorry i guess i doing everything wrong i don't know what you guy want me to do on here. help me i'm obivously too stupid to figure out what i'm doing wrong.

Read this: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/TVs-Frinks-Guide-To-Sensible-Posting-Or-How-Not-To-Be-A-Target/post/467612/#TopicPost467612

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Does anyone have a capture of the original mono soundtrack from the LD of Grease? Grease needs it's original theatrical mix. It's been altered since 1998.

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Would love to have the LD sound from Grease, only have the vhs sound synced with the Bluray.

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I have the 1981 LD of Grease sealed, but I don't have the equipment for ripping bit perfect audio from it. I'd gladly open it for someone to rip...as long as they were extremely careful with it and did a bit perfect rip.

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Grease was stereo, not mono. The problem with that one is that finding it in digital stereo is extremely hard. The common laserdiscs are analog - LDDB claims there was a stereo repressing, but SilverWook has bought at least one copy that claimed to be the digital reissue, and just got analog.

SilverWook did do a rip of the hi-fi stereo VHS audio, but it's not actually released to anyone yet. And I've notified Buster D about the 90s Japanese LD (pre-20th Anniversary) that does have digital sound, if he ever locates a copy he will do a bit-perfect capture.

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PILF-1984 is also the one Buster D is on the lookout for. Yes, it would help if you could get it from someone - whoever gets it, as long as they can do a bit-perfect capture, it's fine.

LV011081-WS is the 20th Anniversary, it only has the altered 5.1 remix done for that re-release.

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I got burned on one of the Japan LD's. The sound quality was poor as well. The 20th anniversary version is not what we want. That has the remix from hell.

This PAL version should have Digital Sound.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/34199/21.04.002/Grease-%281978%29

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361138231715

The obvious problem is I don't have a PAL LD player.

JEDIT: Here's another one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREASE-VF-PAL-LASERDISC-John-Travolta-Olivia-Newton-John-Stockard-Channing-/181752495420

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Does anyone know if any laserdisc of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has digital sound?

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Thanks, SilverWook. I was considering a project to restore Pee-Wee's Big Adventure in HD. The BD has a newer WB intro instead of the original and I am going to restore it when I get the time and I'd like to have the LD audio to go with it. Maybe I will find one sometime.

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They also matted or "fixed" the bike and chain scene, that i thought was hilarious and wish it were still there. Though it also would've meant being unmatted 1.37 : 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iD-UoBg-YU

I would aslo like to see the LD audio found for Pee-Wee.

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Like the infamous helicopter shadow in The Shining, it was visible because the film was presented open matte on early video releases. There was nothing to be fixed, because it would never be seen in a proper theatrical presentation.

An old Laserdisc catalog actually used the bike chain scene to explain open matte films, (and the letterbox format) although there was never a widescreen version of the film released on LD.

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SilverWook, you are 100% correct. I thought about that myself after posting a comment about it. haha

Does anyone here do bit perfect captures of LDs, if I'd provide the LD?

I wouldn't expect them to do it for free, of course.

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I'm greedy, I always request to retain the LD as a "gift" for the bit-perfect capture... (^^,)

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SilverWook, was the Japanese Grease LD you got "burned" on analog? The two Japanese LDs have nearly identical front covers, the only difference I can see on LDDB is the strip on the left side (the original analog one has a purple strip), and the Paramount logo in the upper right corner. PILF-1984 also doesn't have a catalog number on the front (though I can't tell if the old analog disc's purple strip is the Obi, or part of the actual cover).

The Paramount logo is the giveaway, PILF-1984 has a color logo that doesn't mention Gulf+Western.

The PAL LD would be great, would just need to be slowed down 4%.