I just watched the film as well. Even though it still is pretty reddish, this will be the only version I'll watch from now on (aside from curiousities like 16mm version). There was great detail in the picture, much more than I had thought, and the soundtrack sounded great, too. It kind of felt like I saw the film for the first time (but not exactly because I remember it by heart). Only annoying thing was that because this release was split into six (?) files there was a two second blackout every time the played file changed, not sure if it was just because of my SmartTV's way to play them or could I have done something to avoid it, probably not.
Anyways, huge thanks and I can't wait for other releases. You sure raised my hope for watching these films again like they should be.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
Thanks for the compliments from everyone. We are glad you are enjoying it.
We haven't tried, but it should be possible to merge the m2ts files together into one, and remake the bluray that way, so that there are no gaps. You could test it on a computer first before burning to see if it works.
Team Negative1
team_negative1 said:
Thanks for the compliments from everyone. We are glad you are enjoying it.
We haven't tried, but it should be possible to merge the m2ts files together into one, and remake the bluray that way, so that there are no gaps. You could test it on a computer first before burning to see if it works.
Team Negative1
You can with Tsmuxer. Just open the correct .mpls file.
For an MKV 'MakeMKV' will merge them all into one MKV. MKVmerge/MKVtoolnix will do this too.
The RAW Eastman print version is still being worked on and is getting closer to completion. It will be a 1080p version. About 8+ Gigs in size.
The low bitrate 720p version is done. Its currently 3 Gigs.
Team Negative1
3 gigs for 720p footage? Isn't that a bit small?
I'm sure this was mentioned earlier but I want it explained again anyway...
Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…
These are old internal versions. Probably the same ones that gave us the low-resolution stills we used to get.
I asked the same question on the last page. :P
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
Yes, these are internal preview versions that were just used for testing and checking out colors. They are being archived as historical references, and are basically to show the progression through the prints we have acquired.
It's interesting to see how much details in in the RAW pink Eastman version even without color correction. That way you can experiment however you want on it without being influenced by our choices.
Team Negative1
I think the file split being referred to was in the Bluray ISO, so making it an MKV does not impact that.
They were individual M2TS files, which were split.
Team Negative1
Alright, I'm going to try to see how far off I am from understanding your prints.
Eastman print 1 - very red, source of upcoming 'internal' release and occasional patching
Eastman print 2 - less faded, reels 1-4 used for 2013 ex-DCP
Eastman/Fuji - reels 1-4 Eastman, 5-6 Fuji. So not a complete Fuji here? Used for the Grindhouse release. Reels 5-6 also used for the 2013 ex-DCP release.
Fuji print 2 - Complete Fuji with nice color and minimal fade. Source for the eventual final release.
Anywhere near correct?
And I just want to add that the bluray plays fine for me as a disc, and does not skip at all when switching from one m2ts to the next.
Your list is very accurate. However, Reels 5-6, were not Fuji, but Eastman from the first print used in the DCP and Grindhouse versions.
Not sure which reels were Eastman/Fuji in the mixed print.
Reel 3 was fairly damaged from the first print, and replaced with another incomplete Eastman version.
Some of the first print has disintegrated due to aging, however Reels 1 and 3 have survived.
Information, samples and discussion here : http://www.reddit.com/r/AMPSdeux/comments/2qmp61/esb_35mm_grindhouse_behind_the_scenes/
Team Negative1
stretch009 said:
team_negative1 said:
Thanks for the compliments from everyone. We are glad you are enjoying it.
We haven't tried, but it should be possible to merge the m2ts files together into one, and remake the bluray that way, so that there are no gaps. You could test it on a computer first before burning to see if it works.
Team Negative1
You can with Tsmuxer. Just open the correct .mpls file.
For an MKV 'MakeMKV' will merge them all into one MKV. MKVmerge/MKVtoolnix will do this too.
Thanks, I'll have to try some day.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
Oh yeah, forgot to to add something I wondered. Even though the soundtrack itself sounds pretty good, the volume was very low. I had to up my volume 18 dB from my normal TV watching level which added a lot of hiss.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
The final stages of the ESB Deconstructed Workprint are being finalized along with the preview. More details will be released as we get nearer to the release.
The Workprint is surprisingly watchable.
Team Negative1
We are almost ready for a release shortly. Here are some details:
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March 2015,
Here is an archive of original scan of the first print we had.
There are 2 versions included here:
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1 1080p Non corrected Raw Version
2 720p Color corrected Version
Also included are several comparisons of different prints,
using selected reels:
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1 - 2 prints [original and partial Fuji]
2 - 3 prints [original, Eastman, and Fuji]
3 - 4 prints [of reel 3]
The first can be used as a reference version, although a
small segment of Reel 2 has been inserted.
This is for people to see the origin of our scans, and
how some of it was used for the Grindhouse version.
You can experiment with fixing it, and to see a color reference,
we have included a 720p downscale also.
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There are also some test color corrections and cleanup
to show what can be done.
There are numerous issues with the scan as listed below,
although it is watchable.
For : Original Version 0 Deconstructed Workprint
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Format : 1080p MP4 high profile
VIDEO : 1920x868 .h264 video
AUDIO : AAC 192k 48k Stereo English
Corrections : Added in partial scene at Reel 2.
Added in credits from Grindhouse.
- Uncropped
- Not letterboxed
- Original dirt and scratches
- No color correction
- Warped scenes
- Blurred scenes
- Unstabilized scenes
- Platter scratches
- Sprocket scratches
- Visible garbage mattes
- Visible mattes
- Visible effects in composite shots
- Header for Reel 1 and Footer for Reel 6
- NOT compatible with GOUT sound
- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack
There are some glitches at the reel change areas, and also
a few sound glitches.The second half of Reel 3 has some
framerate issues, but stays in sync.
Compatibility :
At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.
For : Color Corrected Internal Test Version 1
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Format : MP4 low bitrate
Video : 1280x556 .h264 video
Audio : AAC 128 48k Stereo English
Corrections : Extensive color correction. Substution of better Reel 3,
and fixes to sound.
- Cropped
- Not letterboxed.
- Original dirt and scratches
- Warped scenes
- Blurred scenes
- Unstabilized scenes
- Platter scratches
- Sprocket scratches
- NOT compatible with GOUT sound
- Includes a basic Stereo soundtrack
- Credits are partial.
Technical : This is a low bitrate downscale to 720p
Compatibility :
At this point, there is no GOUT compatibility and the audio is English only.
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Team Negative1
So, what would you say looks better, the grindhouse or the deconstructed?
Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…
Each release has served a different purpose.
The Grindhouse is the most advanced version using the best reels and parts and extensive color cleanup.
The DCP was the previous version used for projection.
This RAW version is for archival purposes and experimentation for those that want to play around with fixing the various issues. Also included is a different color corrected version with more saturated colors and some minor cleanup done on it.
Team Negative1
Why 1920x868 and 1280x556? They're not Blu-ray compatible and would have to be converted and recompressed for that. Just make them proper 1080p and 720p files.
These are not meant to be watched as is. They are mostly for experimentation, and modifying on a computer. Its simple to put them in letterboxed formats, as some people will do that.
Viewing them on a Ultra Widescreen or 21:9 monitor allows for easier fullscreen with nearly the correct theatrical aspect ratio.
Team Negative1
We are hoping to get this up on Myspleen shortly. There may have been a preview on usenet, but it wasn't all the files.
The full archive will be about 11.1 Gigs total.
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1 ESB Deconstructed
2 ESB Color Correction 1
3 ESB Comparisons (2x,3x,4x)
4 ESB Test cleanups, and color correction
Team Negative1
Looks like this is now on the usenet at a.b.starwars:
[link removed]
TheStarWarsTrilogy.com.
The007Dossier.com.
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Williarob said:
Looks like this is now on the usenet at a.b.starwars:
[link removed]
Unfortunately it's corrupt and doesn't have enough par2 files. The one from two days earlier is corrupt too and unfixable too. :(
yes that's sad - thought I could check it out but it's corrupted
Guess it's time for a 'Repack #2' now.
stretch009 said:
Williarob said:
Looks like this is now on the usenet at a.b.starwars:
[link removed]
Unfortunately it's corrupt and doesn't have enough par2 files. The one from two days earlier is corrupt too and unfixable too. :(
I downloaded it and i only have 1 file corrupt, "ESB Deconstructed (REPACK).part007.rar" and enough pars to fix it, but repairing fails every time using both quickpar and multipar. What are you guys using to create the Par2 files?