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Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 1-Nov-2004 3:09 PM
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I've been waiting since....the middle of last year

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 1-Nov-2004 5:27 PM
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OMG, whyat a good Monday Night....JETS!!!!

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 1-Nov-2004 11:07 PM
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GO JETS! GO PACKERS!

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: Warbler
Time: 2-Nov-2004 12:39 PM
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Motti, who do you cheer for if the Jets and Packers play each other?

Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 2-Nov-2004 2:06 PM
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Packers, he likes them more. GO JETS....41-14!!!!!!!!!!!

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 3-Nov-2004 12:40 AM
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thats a tough one warbler and ive asked myself the same question... i think that i wouldnt care, just as long as its a good game, although i must admit that im leaning more and more towards the JETS again...

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 3-Nov-2004 2:44 PM
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Good man.

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: Warbler
Time: 3-Nov-2004 4:56 PM
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leaning towards the N.Y. team.....towards the dark side

Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 3-Nov-2004 6:04 PM
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Hey, this isn't baseball. here, we have salary caps

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 3-Nov-2004 10:48 PM
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baseball is easy... its the CHICAGO CUBS!!!!!!!

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)

Author: ricarleite
Time: 3-Nov-2004 11:41 PM
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Aren't they cursed?

“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering

Author: Bossk
Time: 4-Nov-2004 4:06 AM
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Aren't they cursed?

Ah yes, remind me. Thanks a pantload.

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 4-Nov-2004 4:11 AM
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No, it's the White Sox who are cursed; that's why nobody talks about them.

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Author: Bossk
Time: 4-Nov-2004 4:23 AM
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No, no, no. The White Sox aren't cursed. We Cubs fans just curse at them. Minor semantic difference, but a difference all the same.

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 4-Nov-2004 4:23 AM
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I stand corrected; I thought the Black Sox stigma was stronger than that.

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Author: Bossk
Time: 4-Nov-2004 4:32 AM
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Nah. Not really a stigma resulting from it as the scandal happened in the 1919 series and they hadn't won since 1917. I wouldn't call that the reason behind it. Honestly, the scandal was just sheer stupidity on the part of those involved and on the part of the commissioner who was a jackass. Banning Shoeless Joe for life while putting up those stats. Yeah, he was certainly involved, wasn't he?

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 4-Nov-2004 7:54 AM
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i didnt know the Cubs were cursed? what curse is that? and the White Sox? what is this Black Sox you speak of, gundark?

i knew though that the Red Sox were cursed, albeit not anymore...

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)

Author: Bossk
Time: 4-Nov-2004 8:29 AM
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It is the curse of the goat. Billy Goat to be more precise. A guy who was a fan of the Cubs who used to walk everywhere with his billy goat tried to take the goat into Wrigley Field. Mr. Wrigley said no. The goat man said that the Cubs will be cursed as a result of their owner's stubbornness. So far, it has stuck.

The Black Sox refers to the White Sox scandal of 1919. Eight players conspired with gangsters to throw the World Series and they did indeed lose it. The eight players, dubbed the Black Sox because they gave the sport of baseball and the team a "black eye", were banned from baseball forever. "Shoeless" Joe Jackson (played by Ray Liotta in Field of Dreams and D.B. Sweeney in Eight Men Out) was one also blamed and he had agreed to go along with the plan. However, he backed out at the last minute and had the series of a lifetime with some spectacular postseason statistics. However he was still banned from baseball for life by the then-commissioner, I believe, Kenesaw Mountain Landis (someone correct me if I got the name wrong). None of them can even get into the Baseball Hall of Fame as a result.

If you want to learn more about the Black Sox, check out Field of Dreams with Kevin Costner or, preferably, Eight Men Out with Charlie Sheen, D.B. Sweeney, and David Strathairn. Field has some good information about the Sox and what happened while EMO is all about what actually happened.

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 4-Nov-2004 9:22 AM
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damn you mr wrigley!!!!

thank you for the info bossk.

there was also something about the Redskins curse for the elections, no?

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: Bossk
Time: 4-Nov-2004 11:18 AM
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It wasn't a Redskins curse so much as a Redskins predictor of the outcome. There was also a Red Sox predictor. In a nutshell...

Since 1936, whenever the Redskins won their game just before a presidential election, the incumbent party would win the presidency. If they lost, the challenging party would win. It was absolutely true, too. Until this year. The Packers beat the Redskins, but Kerry (the challenger) still lost. Oh well.

For the Red Sox, whenever they have played in a World Series that has fallen during a presidential election year, the Red Sox winning has predicted failure for the incumbent party in the election. Alas, this also proved false this year. This has only been the case three times in the past with the last one being something like 1912 or 1916. The Skins predictor has been valid every election since 1936. Pretty good odds that were, obviously, defied this time around.

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 4-Nov-2004 12:06 PM
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another bad point about Bush... he goes against tradition!!!

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: Warbler
Time: 4-Nov-2004 12:21 PM
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DAMN YOU BUSH!!!!!!!

Author: motti_soL
Time: 4-Nov-2004 2:01 PM
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hehe

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Author: StarTrooper3000
Time: 4-Nov-2004 3:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Bossk
It wasn't a Redskins curse so much as a Redskins predictor of the outcome. There was also a Red Sox predictor. In a nutshell...

Since 1936, whenever the Redskins won their game just before a presidential election, the incumbent party would win the presidency. If they lost, the challenging party would win. It was absolutely true, too. Until this year. The Packers beat the Redskins, but Kerry (the challenger) still lost. Oh well.

For the Red Sox, whenever they have played in a World Series that has fallen during a presidential election year, the Red Sox winning has predicted failure for the incumbent party in the election. Alas, this also proved false this year. This has only been the case three times in the past with the last one being something like 1912 or 1916. The Skins predictor has been valid every election since 1936. Pretty good odds that were, obviously, defied this time around.

I did not know that. Where did u learn that?

I just hate stupid people.

GO JETS!!!!

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 4-Nov-2004 3:50 PM
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he just... knows!

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)