I wrote this during the outage, and then discovered I could not post it:
I appreciate that post, Post :)
I am so busy lately and stressed out lately that I don't have time to continue this discussion. I want to be so clear that my views are completely understood, as I need to end participation in this discussion for a bit.
First, imperialscum and boredom, do you not see the hypocrisy in what you have been saying to me? You tell me that I am forcing my opinion, though I have made it clear I am not. You have said that I am trying to do is make movies and art a theocracy (improper usage of the term, but I get what you mean), which I am not.
I oppose adultery tremendously, though I would not illegalize it. I oppose drinking alcohol and smoking, though I still would not outlaw those. I oppose many things, but I think it would be foolish and even more problematic to impose those beliefs on others. Do I wish that people would always choose what I believe to be right? Of course! But even I do not always choose what I believe is right. I do things I morally oppose. I say the same of sexuality (and violence) in movies or print or anything. I believe that those things are wrong, I'd love for the world to agree, but am I going to impose that on anyone? No, in fact, I think such a mandate would be damaging and in complete opposition to my deep belief in the free will of men.
So why do I call you both hypocrites? Because not only do you tell me I am wrong in my belief, wrong to wish others share it, and apparently wrong to argue its merits, as such is supposedly equivalent to forcing others to believe the same (though it is not equivalent at all), but then you proceed to tell me that your beliefs are in fact right, clearly believe that I should share your beliefs, as you are not only telling me I'm wrong to oppose, but are vigorously arguing why you are right. If what I do is somehow forcing my beliefs down your throats, how is what you are doing any different?
Now I just decided to look over old posts, and I realize that Boredom is not being a hypocrite, but is instead bent on the idea that I am imposing my beliefs. So I guess I shouldn't call you a hypocrite, but I hope you will understand my views and get off my case a bit.
And Frink, as I said, it doesn't bother me that you don't agree. As I said, I wish everyone shared my morals. We all think we are right in our beliefs, otherwise we wouldn't hold those beliefs. But just as I appreciate Muslims, Jews, Hindus, atheists, and even weak atheists, ;) I still believe my religion to be correct, obviously, and think it would be wonderful for everyone to agree. I mean, look, you hate anything having to do with fart humor, and yet some people love that. But you remove it from your edits in spite of all the other ridiculous humor you insert. You have your preferences, and you don't really like that GL included it in the first place. I can have the same feelings about the over-sexualization of our media and not feel a bit guilty about it. Does it really bother me that you put the rising obelisk from The Ten Commandments in your AOTR edit? I personally wish you hadn't, but I don't like you any less for it. I don't see why it's such a big deal why I believe what I believe.
Bottom line: I believe what I do. I posted my belief in the Random Thoughts thread, a thread where we are allowed to put our random thoughts. People began criticizing me for those thoughts. Am I arguing that they should accept what I said and agree? Not a bit. The only reason I have continued this argument is because I want people to understand my views clearly, to stop putting words in my mouth, and to ensure that folks understand that I actually have the right to hold such views. If you don't like my views, then get over it!