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Originally posted by: Bossk

YOU F$%#IN BAST#$#! YOU F%&*IN SUCK THE SWEAT OFF A DEAD DONKEY'S SHRIVELED NUT#$CK! I CAN'T STAND YOUR F#$%IN ARROGANCE YOU P$%CK A$$#*LE!


Yes, that's what the priest told me when I had my first confession. Woo was I a naughty boy back then, eh... And then the priest asked me to have sex with him, but I politely declined.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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I thought that was only something that took place in north America


But back on topic, the question of foreing relations is pretty much a moot point, because Bush has allready done the "damage" to our relationships. Why we'd want these alliances with nations who hate the US is beyond me--and the fact that we're allready in Iraq makes "should we have?" a pretty pointless argument. The question you really need to ask yourself is who you trust more to get the job done? Bush, who has allways been big on defense, or Kerry, the guy who injured himself twice and got shot in the butt, just to get out of Vietnam?

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OK let me add my two cents here: this whole Vitenan thing, it's only worth it for political advertisements. Who cares if a candidate has not being to the war or if the candidate has been tortured and being forced to play russian roullette on Vietnan? Apart from Oliver Stone, no one! It dosen't mean he is going to do a good job.

And if you guys want someone to protect the american economy over the globalized world, then you gotta vot Kerry. Bush is going to cooperate with overseas industries, so much that the industries and corporations over here want Bush to win.

Hey, everyone, go vote tomorrow!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Oh I've been planning on it. Voting, that is.
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OK let me add my two cents here: this whole Vitenan thing, it's only worth it for political advertisements. Who cares if a candidate has not being to the war or if the candidate has been tortured and being forced to play russian roullette on Vietnan? Apart from Oliver Stone, no one! It dosen't mean he is going to do a good job.

And if you guys want someone to protect the american economy over the globalized world, then you gotta vot Kerry. Bush is going to cooperate with overseas industries, so much that the industries and corporations over here want Bush to win.

Hey, everyone, go vote tomorrow!


See, while outsourcing may lose jobs, it also makes insourcing more likely, so we gain jobs.
I don't think that outsourcing should be completely unrestricted, but it isn't the catastrophe that some would have you believe.
The problem with Kerry is that he is too much of a socialist--the goverment shouldn't run healthcare and it should run the economy, either.
(which doesn't mean that illiegal business shouldn't go unregulated. I hate it when liberals act as though conservatives are pro-corrupt business, not that Ric did that)

Besides, what is the point in having money if you're dead? Defense is more important than the economy, and Kerry isn't strong on defense.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
BTW my generation still rocks. We had a mock election at my school, and Bush beat Kerry like 190 to 79!


Don't worry... we still forgive you and your school.


what kind of state do you live in
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
OK let me add my two cents here: this whole Vitenan thing, it's only worth it for political advertisements. Who cares if a candidate has not being to the war or if the candidate has been tortured and being forced to play russian roullette on Vietnan? Apart from Oliver Stone, no one! It dosen't mean he is going to do a good job.
Kerry did not use this same wisdom. He tried to use Vietnam for more than "political advertisments." He tried to use his military service to show he would be a good leader/Commander-in-Chief. He stood before the Democratic Convention and said "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty."
He ended up being wrong, because the Swift Boat Vets came along and started to seed the minds of voters with doubt about his record.
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And if you guys want someone to protect the american economy over the globalized world, then you gotta vot Kerry. Bush is going to cooperate with overseas industries, so much that the industries and corporations over here want Bush to win.
Now, I know exactly what you're going to end up saying. Your going to say something like He doesn't have anything to do with his wife's company. Well, let me point out that Kerry and Teresae still have a stake (however large or small) in what Heinz does.
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HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD. - Republic of Singapore
HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED - Auckland, New Zealand
HEINZ JAPAN LTD - Tokyo, Japan
HEINZ-UFE LTD. - Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
HEINZ COSCO - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
HEINZ KOREA LTD. - Inchon, South Korea
HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD. - Bangkok, Thailand
HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED - Mumbai, India
PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA - Jakarta, Indonesia
PT HEINZ SUPRAMA - Surabaya, Indonesia
HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES - Manila, the Philippines
HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED - Wanchai, Hong Kong
H. J. HEINZ (Botsw ana) (Proprietary) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED - Harare, Zimbabwe
CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD. - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD. - Johannesburg, South Africa
HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD. - Wellington, South Africa
HEINZ EUROPE - Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Rovereto, Italy
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Telford, England
JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED - Liverpool, England
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED - Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED - Dublin, Ireland
H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD - North York, Ontario, Canada
OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A. - Caracas, Venezuela
DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A. - San Jos?, Costa Rica
HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l. - Milan, Italy
FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a. - Monguzzo, Italy
COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A. - Athens, Greece
HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O. - Warsaw, Poland
PUDLISZKI S.A. - Pudliszki, Poland
WODZISLAW, S.A. - Wodzislaw, Poland
ESTS. PAULET S.A. - Douarnenez, France
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L. - Paris, France
HEINZ IBERICA S.A. - Madrid, Spain
IDAL (Industrias de Alimentac?, Lda.) - Lisbon, Portugal
MIEDZYCHOD S.A. - Miedzychod, Poland &n! bsp
HEINZ C.I.S. - Moscow, Russia
HEINZ GEORGIEVSK - Georgievsk, Russia
CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE - Cairo, Egypt
HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED - Tel Aviv, Israel
STAR-KIST FOOD D?'OR LIMITED - Haifa, Israel
H. J. HEINZ GMBH - Dusseldorf, Germany
SONNEN BASSERMANN - Seesen, Germany
KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV - The Netherlands
HAK BV - The Netherlands
FOODMARK - The Netherlands
HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV - The Netherlands
DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER - The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ B.V . - Elst, The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A. - Brussels, Belgium
SERV-A-PORTION - Turnhout, Belgium
Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L. - Rovereto, Italy
Comexo S.A. - Chateaurenard, France
HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND - Factories: Chorley, Fakenham, Grimsby,
Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton, Okehampton, Telford, Westwick
If Kerry REALLY does something to hurt companies that use outsourcing and that shift money outside the States for tax purposes, he's going to end up hurting his own bottomline.

Now, given the fact that he's loopholed his way to a 12.78% tax rate, its safe to say he loves his money. You think he's going to suggest legislation to cut his profits??
Not likely.
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Originally posted by: starkiller
You think he's going to suggest legislation to cut his profits?? Not likely.


somehow I doubt Bush would do that either.

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You think he's going to suggest legislation to cut his profits?? Not likely.


somehow I doubt Bush would do that either.
Why do you doubt Bush?
If we look at their acts, we may be able to see a greater picture.

Kerry:
As I stated, John and Teresa payed roughly 12.78% taxes on their income this past year.
$725,000 in taxes on roughly $6.8 million of combined income.
Now, Massachusetts has a provision in their tax code so that you can pay an additional .6% taxes if you so choose. You'd think that with as much as they make and how much Kerry wants the "richest 1%" to pay up, that they'd take advantage of it.
Nope. Kerry has never choosen to pay the additional taxes.

Let's bring up charity giving, that's a fairly good sign, right?
(Reported Income in parenthesis)

1991 ($113,857): $0
1992 ($127,646): $820
1993 ($130,345): $175
1994 ($127,884): $2,039
1995 ($126,179): $0
Post-Teresa Marriage:
1996 ($143,795): $14,325
1997 ($217,338): $21,795
2002 ($144,091): $18,600

Bush:
George and Laura payed roughly 28% taxes on their income.
They payed $227,490 in federal taxes while making $822,126.

Now, let's see Bush's charity:
1991 ($179,591): $28,236
1992 ($212.313): $31,914
1993 ($610,772): $31,292
1994 ($474,937): Unknown
1995 ($419,481): Unknown
1997 ($271,920): Unknown
1998 ($18,400,000): $334,425 (massive influx was the result of sale of 11% interest in Texas Rangers)
To sum up:
Kerry never really took the opportunity to pay out a lot of money, for taxes or charity, even after becoming set for life by playing "Who wants to marry a millionaire?"

Bush, on the other hand, has been quite charitable and, so far as I can tell, doesn't actively search out tax loopholes and tax shelters to protect his money.
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There is a link in his message under the word "charity giving" with all the figures star quoted...

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If anyone else wants proof that Kerry isn't good for America, look at this:
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Stocks ended mixed Tuesday, with the Dow suddenly changing direction, despite oil prices holding near $50 a barrel, as chatter on the Internet speculated that early exit polls had Sen. John Kerry leading the presidential election in key swing states.

The mid-afternoon turnabout wiped out gains built on declining oil prices and investors' hopes for a conclusive presidential election.

The Dow Jones industrial average (search) slipped 18.66 points, or 0.19 percent, to close at 10,035.73, based on the latest data. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index (search) edged up just 0.07 of a point, or 0.01 percent, to finish at 1,130.58. And the technology-laced Nasdaq Composite Index (search) added 4.92 points, or 0.25 percent, at 1,984.79.

Earlier, the Dow traded as high as 10,132.99, and the Nasdaq composite broke through the 2,000 mark for the first time in about four months. The Dow lost about 60 points in 18 minutes.
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Well, let me point out that Kerry and Teresae still have a stake (however large or small) in what Heinz does.
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HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD. - Republic of Singapore
HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED - Auckland, New Zealand
HEINZ JAPAN LTD - Tokyo, Japan
HEINZ-UFE LTD. - Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
HEINZ COSCO - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
HEINZ KOREA LTD. - Inchon, South Korea
HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD. - Bangkok, Thailand
HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED - Mumbai, India
PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA - Jakarta, Indonesia
PT HEINZ SUPRAMA - Surabaya, Indonesia
HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES - Manila, the Philippines
HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED - Wanchai, Hong Kong
H. J. HEINZ (Botsw ana) (Proprietary) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED - Harare, Zimbabwe
CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD. - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD. - Johannesburg, South Africa
HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD. - Wellington, South Africa
HEINZ EUROPE - Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Hayes Park, Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Rovereto, Italy
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Telford, England
JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED - Liverpool, England
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED - Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED - Dublin, Ireland
H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD - North York, Ontario, Canada
OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A. - Caracas, Venezuela
DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A. - San Jos?, Costa Rica
HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l. - Milan, Italy
FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a. - Monguzzo, Italy
COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A. - Athens, Greece
HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O. - Warsaw, Poland
PUDLISZKI S.A. - Pudliszki, Poland
WODZISLAW, S.A. - Wodzislaw, Poland
ESTS. PAULET S.A. - Douarnenez, France
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L. - Paris, France
HEINZ IBERICA S.A. - Madrid, Spain
IDAL (Industrias de Alimentac?, Lda.) - Lisbon, Portugal
MIEDZYCHOD S.A. - Miedzychod, Poland
HEINZ C.I.S. - Moscow, Russia
HEINZ GEORGIEVSK - Georgievsk, Russia
CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE - Cairo, Egypt
HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED - Tel Aviv, Israel
STAR-KIST FOOD D?'OR LIMITED - Haifa, Israel
H. J. HEINZ GMBH - Dusseldorf, Germany
SONNEN BASSERMANN - Seesen, Germany
KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV - The Netherlands
HAK BV - The Netherlands
FOODMARK - The Netherlands
HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV - The Netherlands
DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER - The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ B.V . - Elst, The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A. - Brussels, Belgium
SERV-A-PORTION - Turnhout, Belgium
Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L. - Rovereto, Italy
Comexo S.A. - Chateaurenard, France
HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND - Factories: Chorley, Fakenham, Grimsby,
Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton, Okehampton, Telford, Westwick

Looks like Kerry did not forgot Poland, after all... ROTFL!
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As long as none of the court challenges succeed.

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Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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There is only ONE way this election should be decided., and you know what it is: the arena of death! Two go in, one comes out! Two go in, one comes out! *starts to sing the infamous arena battle music from Star Trek*
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Does MTV still run Celebrity Deathmatch? That'd be the perfect forum for deciding the election.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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I am actually impressed that Kerry conceded and didn't try the Gore thing.

But then again, Gore did concede before he retracted that consession and did the recounts...

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I am actually impressed that Kerry conceded and didn't try the Gore thing.

But then again, Gore did concede before he retracted that consession and did the recounts...
Not to say Kerry isn't an honorable man, but you have to take into account the fact that if he had pushed for recounts and legal action, it would have hurt his political career. Look at what has happened to Gore since 2000.

Besides, if he had conceded, then retracted, it would have been one more thing he would have flip-flopped on.
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Yep, while a 2nd run @ Pres probably won't happen, Kerry can always run for Governor, right?

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Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Definitely won't happen.
The strength of the Clinton family makes it quite obvious that Hillary will run in 2008.

As for governor, by some that could be considered a demotion.
I know that here in Ohio, our gov used to be Voinovich. He choose not to take another term a few years ago, and instead he ran for Senator.
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Yep, have to agree. A Governorship is generally looked at as being a step back. My wife was saying Obama would make a great Illinois Governer and, while I agree, I know it'll never happen. I'm not sure about Hillary in 2008. I still think it's too early for her to run and be taken seriously as a candidate. Still too many hardliners out there that don't think a woman can do it. Plus, there is still such a negative perception of her. I don't think she'd stand a chance. Too early for Obama, too. Give him 8-12 years in the Senate and then it'll happen.

Who do you all think will be the next Republican prez candidate? Definitely not Cheney.
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