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Post #752670

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Ronster
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Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
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Date created
13-Feb-2015, 4:48 PM

Escape from Cloud City corrected sequences.

http://vimeo.com/119593326

It's only taken me about 2 years to finally figure this out but I had the Eureka moment today. It consists of 2 sequences re-arranged I think in the correct order in terms of footage

There is no Audio mix. I was purely concentrating on getting the scenes into the correct order. It's a lovely experience to watch it, if you ask me Enjoy it for all it is worth. This is a major milestone for me in figuring out what the hell was going on with the way they edited this part and no script will give up these answers it all just fell in to place somehow.

I now feel that I have blown the lid on how screwed up the editing of this film really is and how amazing the film making was and how some of it was totally butchered beyond what it was meant to be. You could be shocked you might just choose to think I am wrong.

Now there is one last thing to mention and it is perhaps we have a missing Shot of R2 D2? it could be a mistake the shuffle I made here so it is possible that the extinguisher shot of R2 letting off the smoke stays in it's original location in the sequence and the missing shot would go where I have moved this shot to. Or there is a missing shot of R2 and this leads into the extinguisher shot in the location I have it in Other than that I think this is 100% correct.

I have slept on this and I am just happy I finally have a bit of closure on this puzzling part of the film. I am not sure if I will attempt to re-score and re-dub the sound effects and re-create it yet. But the music cues will obviously be effected but I wonder how this matches up to the theatrical version vs SE version obviously the falcon taking off has always been way off so this goes someway to explaining why the music never really matched up with the footage correctly.

It's not 100% correct and it never will be too many missing pieces of footage. Random shots in a less random order is a better way to describe the clip.

Whoops! made a mistake on the first sequence R2-D2's foot is visible in the elevator I am Happy about this so it is in the right place :) and I made a balls up.

I also still have two shots the wrong way around chewie and the mark on the wall once I have all the footage confirmed by myself as in the correct order as this is very much trial and error then I will see what is missing from the sequence. The dead body of the stormtrooper has been part of the telltale signs of sussing this out but it disappears when R2D2 uses the extinguisher so what ever it does not really make any sense in the correct order still. Version 3 will be on it's way at some point.

Exhibit A

Lasers Heard but not seen

Ok my first piece of evidence and I have thought about this for a long time. On this shot a sound effect can be heard of three laser blasts that go "Pew Pew Pew" (yes I know that both reads and sounds ridiculous....But listen to it.) There are no shots fired in this shot and the sound effects also run over into the following shot. This means that there was another scene in this location at some point that had 3 laser blasts possible shooting and missing Chewie as he runs from his cover behind the wall. But I don't know this for sure but it is another tell tale sign that things are not quite right or is it simply suggestion that Chewie left his post and the sound effects are simply there to implythat is going on elsewhere. But it is important thing to note regardless of any alterations.

Exhibit B

The Dead Stormtrooper.

He is there on the first shot looking out but is in the location of where the stormtrooper in the following shots later is shooting at Chewie from.

Not only this but the numbers of storm troopers also decrease between shots but then increase again for the shot of R2 using the fire extinguisher but the Dead Stormtrooper has vanished.

There is however no Squib Mark on the wall from where Chewie shoots from in this shot.

Exhibit C

The IMPosters

These guys have no place what so ever in the latter part of the sequence. They are related to the start of the sequence although the shot has been flipped.

But this shot throws a big answer our way. This shot gives us the total amount of seconds missing from the majority sequence. Taking into account Exhibit A this means that 2.5 to 3.5 seconds of footage are missing from the point where R2D2 plugs in to the wall (Although it may not have been the start of the sequence originally all footage after this point in the film sequence as we know it is missing 2.5 to 3.5 seconds). That is factual analysis from this point.

To make an educated guess as to what fills those 2.5 to 3.5 seconds 1 second and a bit is the stormtrooper shooting behind the pillar being hit by laser fire. the remainder is to do with Chewie leaving cover and possibly R2-D2 coming back inside with lasers whizzing past the camera... What angle / direction is this shot? Probably looking from outside the door back inside the building.

Looking at the start of the sequence where these guys are meant to be... It is a lot more difficult to decipher how much is missing from this part. but including this shot into that part it probably means that we are missing no more than 5 seconds from the start. At a guess Chewie shoots one of them which would lead into the shot that follows where he would shoot the second Stormtrooper who gives chase (for which the footage exists) there is obviously a shot of Chewie running into the ambush also precursing this shot when in it's correct location.

Exhibit D

The Crossfire

There is only one place that can have crossfire across the mouth of a tunnel and that is from the area where R2-D2 Chewie and 3PO are located

Ok so although I have been messing about a bit regarding the Judge and Jury trial approach to looking at the footage (yes I am joking) I came across another cut scene which I found interesting and it could replace a highly suspicious scene from another location.

Now this image is a crap effort but it's enough to get the point over. There was meant to be a scene where the cargo bay doors shut on slave 1 and we would have possible seen Han disappear as the doors of the ship shut. Cool Eh?

Where does it go... Well it might go where Chewie turns around and 3PO says "turn round you wooly" this scene may be a part of the sequence I am looking at at the momment. or perhaps as the saying goes "as one door closes another one opens"

I am going to clear that piece of footage as being in the correct location though and just call the scene with Slave 1 a "no Budget" for this shot unfilmed. But with that said it probably would have been a low budget shot not including the ship or landing platform with 1 set wall or cargo bay floor and darkness shrounding the image of Han in Carbonite with sound effects to convey the door closing. Here is the script entry note if you had not built a full size Bobba Fett ship which shot would you choose over Bobba Climbing up the Ladder or the doors shutting. Cool Idea either way. would have denoted as 387 A /B / C

387. EXT BOBA'S SHIP - EAST LANDING PLATFORM
Imperial Stormtroopers slide Han's encased body int
o an openingin the side of the bounty hunter's ship. Boba climb
s aboard on a ladder next to the side opening.
BOBA
Seal it.
Exhibit E (back to joking around)
R2 is smoking again whilst he plugs into the wall at the second door.
This means he never left the first Door where he got electrocuted. Or is he even plugged into the wall?
Ok so last note on this for a while... One Door, One escape route keeping as much footage as I can is what I am going to do so cut's are going to happen.