Aliens (Part 1)
After having a conversation with Stamper over on Fanres, he informed me that what I thought I knew about the TV cut of Aliens is wrong. Orginally, I thought that the TV cut was the Extended cut with the LV-426 removed. That is not true. The Aliens TV cut is a hybrid between the Theatrical and Extended. It contains all the emotional scenes (Ripley's daughter) and all the action with the sentry gun but none of the extra bits and pieces. Comparing it to the Extended cut here are the difference I can find:
-has Ripley's daughter scene (Her 11th birthday)
-no extra conference room lines (...its the view of this inquest...)
-missing Burke's extra lines (...saw the commercial)
-no extra scene in the Sulaco
-no extra Hudson lines (...knives, sharp sticks...)
-no extra Hudson motion tracker scene (Good one, Hudson)
-no scene outside with Ripley, Burke and Gorman entering the colony (Are you alright?)
-does have the robot sentry intro (But the good news..., without they really kick ass line)
-does have the discussion about the planning the barricades (..we put the other sentry here..)
-does have the scene of setting up the robot sentry guns (Fire in the hole)
-does have the scene of the guns scanning the hallways
-does have Ripley and Newt discussing Ripley's daughter (She's dead)
-no bee hives comparison lines (...bees, man...)
-does have first sentry attack scene (..its a shooting gallery..)
-does have the second sentry attack scene (maybe we got them demoralized)
-has the Ellen/Dwayne exchange
Couple of other interesting things about this cut. In this version the gun order is fixed. In theatrical prints, old VHS, old LDs when Ripley gets ready to enter the hive, she pulls down flame thrower from the wall, puts down a pulse rifle on the table, pulls a pulse rifle puts down a flame thrower. Like the Bishop hole, its a famous goof. The SE LD I think has this order too (maybe someone can check). The 95 LD definitely has the wrong order (theatrical order), same with the DVD and the old HDTV master. The TV cut has the correct order. The only other time that has appeared is the BD. So clearly Cameron had a lot to do with this TV cut.
Another interesting thing is while everyone seems to have their profanity removed or have individual words redubbed by other actors, all of Hudson's lines containing profanity are redubbed instead of the individual word. There is an audible difference in the lines. Is also sounds like Bill Paxton doing the lines not a replacement actor. I wonder if Cameron had him re-do the lines?
So I think instead of the Theatrical cut, I'm going to recreate the TV cut. Its just too interesting of a cut. And the Theatrical is easy to re-create from the TV cut. All of the violence is in the TV cut (chestburster, etc) as it was in the broadcast. I could preserve the TV audio but the main audio would be the LD PCM 2.0 from the extended cut. The only point of contention is the scene were Ripley says goodbye to Jonsey the cat is remove. Most likely for the profanity. I decide to keep this in the my project.