imperialscum said:
Frank your Majesty said:
I thought you wanted to say the ten commandments are in contrast to survival of the fittest, or something similar.
Yes that is what I was saying.
Then, you have misread my reply.
imperialscum said:
Frank your Majesty said:
And if you don't belive in religion you must assume that the biblical principles were invented by humans. Humans who were created through evolution, thus making the biblical principles a product of evolution. Therefore, abiding to biblical principles is not against evolution. Or in other words, evolution can lead to principles that contradict your "laws of evolution".
What are you saying is an absurd. It is true that the bible was written by human (who evolved through evolution), but the content of the bible does not describe the evolution. That is like saying every book is about the principles of evolution just because it was written by a human.
From an atheist's point of view, religious rules aren't against the law of evolution because religions are a result of evolution. Rules that prevent the physically strong from killing the weak seem to be against survival of the fittest, but these rules allow us to form societies which are stronger than the individuals in it. The biblical principles were written to enable people to form a society based on their religion and this social behaviour was developed through evolution.
This has nothing to do wether the bible is about evolution or not. The message of the Harry Potter books about friendship and what not are also a result of evolution and these books are also not about evolution.
Frank your Majesty said:
If you don't take the bible literally, you can easily say that God creating earth and life in seven days was a way for people 2500 years ago to imagine how everything started. You can still believe in Heaven and Jesus dying for your sins. That's the essence of not taking something literally.
Of course, evolution is nowhere mentioned in the bible, but neither is electricity and yet, even members of the Westboro Baptist Church use electric light.
Yes I suppose you could twist everything around and fool yourself so that it somehow fits with the modern science. But what would someone then even believe in such nonsense if he accepts science? Why not just take science and forget about the bed-time story level material?
I can't answer this, as I am not religious myself.
I will not partake in some kind of "forum warfare", this is not about "winning", so I stop here. I made my point and if you don't agree, I don't care.