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TK-949 said:
Duracell, is that Jeffrey Combs in your avatar?
Yep. That's him as Milton Dammers from The Frighteners.
TK-949 said:
Duracell, is that Jeffrey Combs in your avatar?
Yep. That's him as Milton Dammers from The Frighteners.
Ender, I understand your distaste for Fifty Shades of Grey as it is by all means a shit story, a shit book, and now a shit movie, but I'd really wish you'd tone it down on your condescension towards sexually "frivolous" people. It's rather offensive. I'm sure you wouldn't and don't appreciate others being condescending to you because of your religion.
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
TV's Frink said:
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
She doesn't know.
真実
I had no idea you are his wife.
TV's Frink said:
I had no idea you are his wife.
If I were then I would know. Why the hell would I then say that I don't know?
真実
His other wife.
Since this is after all the 'random thoughts' thread, my random thought is that I am bored with the repressive turn this thread has now taken, and am off to find a random target upon which to practice my screwing, tapping of that, and other ill-considered euphemisms.
I may also, if the mood strikes me, penetrate the rectums of weak-willed females, making them snort like pigs and call me Daddy, while flipping Jesus the bird and forcing them to read 50 Shades of Grey.
No doubt I shall contribute extensively to the moral decay of society in so doing. Wish me luck . . .
darth_ender said:
Sexual frivolity, infidelity, teen pregnancy, abortions, and the like are certainly much more prevalent than before. To what can we attribute this rise? Largely the media portrayal and acceptance of such behavior.
Or does the media portray this behavior because it is already accepted? I don't think the influence of books, movies and TV is that great, simply because most people wouldn't watch a movie or read a book if they are strongly opposed to its topic. The media mainly reflects the behaviour of the society, which is much more formed by social factors.
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DominicCobb said:
Ender, I understand your distaste for Fifty Shades of Grey as it is by all means a shit story, a shit book, and now a shit movie, but I'd really wish you'd tone it down on your condescension towards sexually "frivolous" people. It's rather offensive. I'm sure you wouldn't and don't appreciate others being condescending to you because of your religion.
Yes, I'm sure you hold your right to whatever sexual activity in equal sacredness as I do my religious convictions. Please show me which quote you find so offensive. I don't see how I was condescending, but rather shared why I feel a book has contributed to moral failings in society. 99% of this whole forum agrees with you rather than me, in that sex need not be saved for marriage, and the same applies with most of my associates in the real world. I am merely sharing my reasoning as to why I find the book lacking in moral substance, and my moral stance as well. How dare I?!
Oh, and since you are passionate in defending both everyone's sexual rights as you are my religious rights, I really appreciate all those times you came to my defense when my beliefs were indeed mocked in this very forum with equal vigor.
Oh yeah. You never did.
TV's Frink said:
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
Since I've shared that I am married and have kids, it's obviously no secret. Am I being crude about it? Am I sharing needless details? Or am I sharing the fact that I love and respect my wife?
hairy_hen said:
Since this is after all the 'random thoughts' thread, my random thought is that I am bored with the repressive turn this thread has now taken, and am off to find a random target upon which to practice my screwing, tapping of that, and other ill-considered euphemisms.
I may also, if the mood strikes me, penetrate the rectums of weak-willed females, making them snort like pigs and call me Daddy, while flipping Jesus the bird and forcing them to read 50 Shades of Grey.
No doubt I shall contribute extensively to the moral decay of society in so doing. Wish me luck . . .
My random thought is that why, if someone is bored with the discussion, does he feel the need to attempt to be as insulting as possible in that conversation?
And my follow up thought is why has hairy_hen never proven himself to be more than a moron in his discussions of any depth?
Frank your Majesty said:
darth_ender said:
Sexual frivolity, infidelity, teen pregnancy, abortions, and the like are certainly much more prevalent than before. To what can we attribute this rise? Largely the media portrayal and acceptance of such behavior.
Or does the media portray this behavior because it is already accepted? I don't think the influence of books, movies and TV is that great, simply because most people wouldn't watch a movie or read a book if they are strongly opposed to its topic. The media mainly reflects the behaviour of the society, which is much more formed by social factors.
You are right. The media has no effect on public opinion.
darth_ender said:
DominicCobb said:
Ender, I understand your distaste for Fifty Shades of Grey as it is by all means a shit story, a shit book, and now a shit movie, but I'd really wish you'd tone it down on your condescension towards sexually "frivolous" people. It's rather offensive. I'm sure you wouldn't and don't appreciate others being condescending to you because of your religion.
Yes, I'm sure you hold your right to whatever sexual activity in equal sacredness as I do my religious convictions. Please show me which quote you find so offensive. I don't see how I was condescending, but rather shared why I feel a book has contributed to moral failings in society. 99% of this whole forum agrees with you rather than me, in that sex need not be saved for marriage, and the same applies with most of my associates in the real world. I am merely sharing my reasoning as to why I find the book lacking in moral substance, and my moral stance as well. How dare I?!
Oh, and since you are passionate in defending both everyone's sexual rights as you are my religious rights, I really appreciate all those times you came to my defense when my beliefs were indeed mocked in this very forum with equal vigor.
Oh yeah. You never did.
I made the comparison to religion because your sexual beliefs are based on your religion. I do not have a religion, so I don't have any convictions of that sort. What I find sacred are my personal liberties, so yes, I suppose I do hold my right to sexual activities in equal sacredness as you do your moral convictions.
I shouldn't have to point out specific points where you were offensive because you know what they were and there are frankly so many of them that I don't have the time or the patience to go through all of them. Let's just say that every time you bring up sexual promiscuity (in this thread and others), you take on a distinct holier than thou attitude and insatiate that those with sexual practices other than your own are immoral. Yes, I am offended that you find me immoral. If you can't see what's wrong with that, that's your problem.
By the way, I have no interest in religion whatsoever so that's why I don't prowl your Mormon thread trying to defend every insult to your religion. But just because I don't defend you doesn't mean I don't believe in your right to your own beliefs. I'm not asking you to defend my beliefs here. I'm just asking that you respect them as I do yours.
I don't believe in God, yes. But I'm not going to criticize those who do. You can believe in whatever you want. I'm not going to judge you. Notice how I'm not criticizing your sexual history. I just wish you would open your mind a bit a respect people with beliefs other than yours. In most cases I find you to be a very reasonable and kind poster here. That's why it's such a shame to see you be so rude and judgmental on this issue.
darth_ender said:
One could argue that anyone who murders is mentally ill.
But while I avoid overly violent movies, let's look at the difference in interpretation for a minute. Has society seen in increase in violence due to watching The Godfather or Saving Private Ryan? I would argue that perhaps not due to these movies, but due to some, there has been some increase, as such violence is seen as "cool". Nevertheless, overall most people understand that such is not acceptable.
On the other hand, let's look at promiscuity, at sexual abuse. Though society has indeed come to a greater understanding of women's rights, it appears that sexual violence is in fact on the rise. Sexual frivolity, infidelity, teen pregnancy, abortions, and the like are certainly much more prevalent than before. To what can we attribute this rise? Largely the media portrayal and acceptance of such behavior.
Now I know I am coming from a conservative viewpoint. I have been married for eight years and have had one sexual partner in all my life, starting with my wedding night and not a moment before. I am proud of such a lifestyle, but I understand that not everyone cares about such virtues. Instead, there seems to be a need to "educate" me on BDSM (as if I have a history of engaging in topics I know nothing about). But let me review why I made my first post, and we shall skip all the differing of more enlightened individuals.
First, 50 Shades of Gray is an erotic novel. To me, this is pornography. I oppose the flaunting of sex. It is called intimacy for a reason. It is to be shared between the partners and none else. I made love to my wife last night. Did I record and upload it for you all to see? No. I am keeping it personal.
Second, the novel promotes sex out of marriage. Obviously I oppose this for reasons already stated.
Third, it treats sex as a form of selfish pleasure rather than selfless giving and sharing. What did I do with my wife last night? I didn't screw her, I didn't tap that, I didn't use any other disrespectful term. I made love, because I feel that when we engaged in sexual contact, it was about loving giving rather than lustful taking.
Fourth, that novel shows BDSM, even if I did find that as a selfless form of sex (I don't), as abuse. Many who have read it (and I'm going by their opinion, as I have not) feel it shows an abusive, controlling, manipulative relationship, not a giving relationship between equal partners. So even if you argue that BDSM is a wonderful thing where the submissive is really in control (yeah, I'm sure that's how it always is), this book does not portray it that way.
And fifth, in spite of all this book has going against it, in spite of how trashy and poorly written it is, in spite of the negative psychology correlated with those who are fans of the book, it is a huge bestseller, with a movie made after it, shown just in time for Valentine's Day so that we can celebrate the day of love watching lustful, selfish indulgence and encourage more teens to get pregnant and glorify the worship of such self-serving behavior rather than the outward devotion that true love really is.
And people are buying their Fandango tickets in advance.
I don't care who the primary audience is. It's a stupid book, it's a filthy movie, and it shows the dysfunction of our society.
I'm off work tonight. I hope to make love to my wife again.
Cobb, I don't care about you "prowling" my thread. I've been attacked elsewhere, including politics, where I know you have at least trodden before. But perhaps you have missed such things. No matter. Look at my above quote. Perhaps I can sound holier than thou, but reread the quote, particularly the underlined part. I am sharing my personal views and why I find the book, not you, so offensive. I don't understand why you, hairy_hen, and everyone else so passionate about personal liberty (which I too value, but only along with personal responsibility) is so up in arms about. The book is offensive to me. I shared it as a random thought. You don't find it offensive and feel that near pornographic films and books should be accessible to teens. I disagree. It's my random thought. I'm sorry that you think it is so horrible of me to use my personal liberties to express my personal views in a random thoughts thread.
darth_ender said:
TV's Frink said:
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
Since I've shared that I am married and have kids, it's obviously no secret. Am I being crude about it? Am I sharing needless details? Or am I sharing the fact that I love and respect my wife?
Big difference between "I've had sex" and "I had sex last night." And I notice you didn't answer my question.
TV's Frink said:
darth_ender said:
TV's Frink said:
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
Since I've shared that I am married and have kids, it's obviously no secret. Am I being crude about it? Am I sharing needless details? Or am I sharing the fact that I love and respect my wife?
Big difference between "I've had sex" and "I had sex last night." And I notice you didn't answer my question.
Big difference between saying "I've had carnal relations with Frink's mother." and "I'm having carnal relations with Frink's momma as I type this."
It's true.
DuracellEnergizer said:
While we're all discussing sex and the exploration/denial thereof, I'd just like to say that I'd probably be more comfortable with my sexuality and my sexual desires would probably be more normal had my parents not instilled in me the notion that sex -- outside of marriage, in positions other than the missionary position, for reasons other than procreation -- was wrong and sinful.
I don't think I ever had a conversation with any parent that was even vaguely about sex.
So I have to ask... did your parents EXPLAIN different sexual positions to you? Was there a diagram of them, with all of them under big red X's except missionary?
TV's Frink said:
It's true.
Truer than you know.
TV's Frink said:
darth_ender said:
TV's Frink said:
I'm also curious how you are keeping it between you and your wife if you are telling the whole world you guys did it last night.
Is she cool with you posting that?
Since I've shared that I am married and have kids, it's obviously no secret. Am I being crude about it? Am I sharing needless details? Or am I sharing the fact that I love and respect my wife?
Big difference between "I've had sex" and "I had sex last night." And I notice you didn't answer my question.
Wow, you say that like you have me cornered! She does not know I've typed this. However, considering that I will likely never meet you in real life, yet knows I had a similar conversation on the sacredness of sex in person with several coworkers just a week or so ago and was okay with it, I don't think she cares that I share such information with a bunch of folks on the world wide web.
Well ok then.
I dated a woman once who, between you, me, and Frink's mom, was into BSDM stuff. So I'm no prude on this issue.
But DAMN 50 Shades of Gray is boring, unsexy, and really creepy. Even the movie previews aren't sexy in the least (well, maybe that song).
What boggles my mind is how something so dull and awful become so popular. Is our bar for 'lurid titillation' so low?
I think this Fifty Shades thing is a tad overhyped, it's hardly worth fretting over. The movie will probably be the greatest cinematic train wreck since The Room. Bring on the Rifftrax I say! ;)
Where were you in '77?
I'm still giggling at "sexual frivolity" btw.