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The PT's influence on today's movies — Page 4

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...and _that_, ladies and gentlemen, is what we ultimately got from the PT.  A way to more accurately measure how bad a film is.  Prior to '98 we had to say things like "It was Ishtar bad" which was no real shorthand at all since nobody had seen it to know what you were talking about.  The PT was the horrible failure to be an entertaining movie  that nearly everybody, everywhere saw at least once.  You are now able to instantly convey exactly what you mean when you say, "That movie was Phantom Menace bad."  

...Which incidentally, you get to say alot these days because it made a billion dollars, so they keep making variations of it.  :/ 

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generalfrevious said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Even with Sean Bean i probably won't go see it.  It looks like shit. Star wars looks more promising.  Both feature a young heroine but i think i would rather see Daisy Ridley than the girl from the seventies show as the hero.

Ah, Mila Kunis ... Her annoying voice has made it impossible for me to even entertain the thought of watching her in a serious role. 

At least she isn't Natalie Portman.

 Because she's only been in SW movies.

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Nocturnaloner said:

I'm waiting for  the fanedits of Jupiter Ascending

Assuming anyone ends up giving enough of a shit about the movie to bother making the attempt. ;-)

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The Matrix's sequels do have a lot in common with the SW prequels—they are boring, have way too much CGI, and are ultimately pointless.

I don't think The Matrix was ever intended to be anything other than a standalone movie at first.  If you read the script, some interesting backstory is presented: prior to finding Neo, Morpheus had taken in five other people whom he was equally, fanatically convinced were the One, and all five of them died fighting Agents of the system.  (This seemingly unjustifiable conviction led even more weight to Cypher's betrayal of the team.)  Ultimately, this information was not included in the final film, and in the sequels the idea of Neo's "five predecessors" was instead changed to there having been five Ones before him who reset the system to save humanity.  The effect of this was to reduce the idea of the One to a mere pawn of the machines, rather than someone who got sucked into Morpheus' seeming delusions but ultimately turned out to be real.

Since this unused backstory was what the Wachowskis had in mind while making the first film, we can easily see that the plot of the sequels has little resemblance to their earlier ideas.  And since it was the first film that audiences identified with rather than the sequels, the situation is again analogous to the SW prequels, whose changes to the continuity and the deleterious effects this had on quality are well documented.

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They've been inspiring somebody...

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Hey Bingo, something about you is different...no, do not tell me...wait, have you changed your hair? ;-)

I was once…but now I’m not… Further: zyzzogeton

“It wasn’t the flood that destroyed the pantry…”

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Bingowings said:

MacArthur Park is no place to do fan art.

 Dude, there are maybe five of us on here old enough to get that reference.  Well done, by the way. ;-)

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I'm a whippersnapper but I get it. Although I do confess I first got to know the song through Weird Al and his parody, "Jurassic Park".

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Other then slaughtering Hayden Christensen's acting, and maybe a few then state of the art CGI graphics, has it had any impact at all on cinema?

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I watched The Chronicles of Riddick (2004) over the weekend. I've caught glimpses of it before but I remembered the awful reviews and it seemed a bit too Highlander 2 for my liking.

Actually it's not that bad at all. The dialogue is a bit clunky in places but there are defined characters with goals.

I was struck by how PTish it looked and felt though.

Lovely production design but the digital collage style marks it out as a child of the prequels (at least the first one). Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame (2010) similarly has the PT style but is much more fun to watch.

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The director's cut of Chronicles of Riddick is a decent film. Though I hate the introduction of powers and what not. People loved Pitch Black for the gritty Sci-Fi atmosphere and then for a sequel they turned the universe into a fantasy world.

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Tonight I re-watched the Lost in Space movie and was going to comment on how it was clearly inspired by TPM and The Matrix which came out...a year later :-D

It has some really painful character moments but it's so much better than any PT movie.

I really wish they made a sequel to that film instead of the sequels to TPM and The Matrix.

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I wonder if Jack Johnson was ever considered for Anakin? He was certainly around the right age at the time. Much like Jake Lloyd, he seems to have had only a few roles after the LIS movie.

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Where were you in '77?

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I could believe in him making a robot out of junk better than Jake but Jake looks more like Leonardo DiCaprio ;-D

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I am hoping  and it is probably  a futile hope, that the Star Wars Prequels don't have an influence on the Force Awakens.

Everything from 1994 on has been influenced by them at Lucasfilm in varying degrees.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.