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He made very specific claims that he said certain things.  He should either quote where he said it or shut the fuck up about it.  If you don't care, great for you, don't look up the quotes for it.  Oh wait, you're the only person that already did.  If it felt burdensome for you to do so, then that's probably because it wasn't your responsibility to do so, it was the one making specific claims against another person based on nonsense.  Of course it's all insignificant, but he shouldn't throw somebody under the bus and say lies about them just because he disagrees with them.

He was in a sense being deceitful.  While it is true that Frink said he hates all religions, he was being sarcastic, so I don't see how that makes it admissible.

So will anyone be watching tonight?

Since one of the teams didn't earn their place there I will not be watching.

Instead I plan to watch Vertigo and Assault on Precinct 13 as a double feature.

The whole game is rigged.  it is not a contest of skill, it is a contest for who can find the most creative ways to cheat.

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Not a sports fan at all but I watch the Super Bowl every year because I do enjoy a football to some extent. This year my team, the Patriots were in, and they won, and the game was fantastic! Very fun. 

And that's all I have to say about that.

DominicCobb said:

 I do enjoy a football to some extent.

 You can buy them at wal-mart for under 5 USD you know.

Everyone seems to think the play call was the worst play call in the history of sports.  I agree it wasn't the wisest play call and would have been better run the ball, but I didn't think it was the worst play call ever.   I've seen lots of teams pass the ball when they are close to the end zone.  If they had scored a touch down on that play, no one would be calling it a bad play call.  The coach didn't know it was going to be intercepted when he made the call.  If they tried that same play 100 times, just how many times do you think it was end up in an interception?  5? 10?   I doubt more than that.  I really don't think the play call was as bad as everyone seems to think.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

On the "1", on second down? 

I am pretty I've seen many teams try a pass in that situation.   

With Marshawn Lynch on your team,

I've seen a lot of running plays on the goal line get stopped for no gain.   I'v seen teams try running plays three times to no avail and have to settle for a field goal.  This includes teams with good running backs. 

  Of course they didn't know it would be intercepted, but there was absolutely no need to risk it.  Interceptions happen all the time.

 so do fumbles, which could have happened if the hand-off didn't go right, or if Lynch didn't hold the football properly while running, or if a defender hit him just  right and the ball pops out. 

If I had been the coach, I wouldn't have passed,  but I wouldn't have given it to Lynch either,  I would have gone for the quarterback sneak.  However, I do agree that giving it to Lynch would have been smarter than passing.  I just don't think it was the dumbest call in the history of football.  

The dumbest call in football history was imho, the Miracle in the Meddowlands.   All the Giants had to do was snap the ball and kneel and the cloak would have run out and the Giants would have won the game.  But instead they run a play.  They wind fumbling and an Eagles player picks up the ball and runs into the end zone and scores the winning touchdown.  Classic.  I believe half the Giants coaching staff was fired for that.

I don't know why the Patriots winning is big news.  Between the cheating and the fact that their owner is best buds with the head of the NFL they don't even have to play to be declared the winners of any game.  From now on they are going to be the winners of every game ever played because even if they have the lower score the NFL officials will still declare them the winners.

What is the point of a championship you didn't win honestly and only got into because of who your owner knows and all the pay off he made?  I mean since you didn't earn it through skill how can you look at that ring with any sense of pride?  What is the point of even playing next season when we know the Patriots will not be allowed to lose?

They could bring machine guns onto the field and reinact that one story from Rocky and Bullwinkle and nothing would be done about it.

The NFL will never let any team besides the Patriots win, so the game is dead to me.

If I were the owners of the other teams I would sue the NFL for rigging the game.

Oh my fucking god.  You really argue like a prepubescent girl sometimes, you know that?  Everything with you must be taken to the extreme.  The patriots probably cheated to win a couple of games.  Therefore they will win every single game from now on and the conspiracy goes way deep down to the heart of the NFL, right?  Yeah it's shitty the patriots cheated and deflated that ball.  So you think their cheating also includes making the coach for the seahawks make a boneheaded play?  Not every pebble that falls is the start of an avalanche, chill the fuck out once in a while.  And before you start going off, no, just because I disagree with the way you see things here I don't hate you and I don't wish for a "final solution" for you.

But they should not have been there in the first place and no one was punished, that proves the NFL leadership is rigging the game for them.  Just look how fast the NFL came down on a player on another team for making a gesture no one saw, you going to tell me there is no favoritism there?  Do you really believe the lack of punishment for the Patriots has nothing to do with the fact that the Patriots owner is old friends with the highest official in the NFL?

Since they got off scott free do you really think they will not step up the cheating next season and do you really believe they will be punished in any way?

Sorry but the NFL is involved and the game is rigged.

So you think the seahawks passed instead of running at the last second because the NFL told them to?

Possessed said:

So you think the seahawks passed instead of running at the last second because the NFL told them to?

 No but I think if any other team had been caught cheating to get into the Super Bowl they would have been punished in some way and they either wouldn't have played in the game or the coach and the quarterback would have been suspended.

Do you really not see the favoritism here?  I mean the NFL was more concerned with a gesture someone made that no one saw but when it comes to cheating they shrugged and said it was no big deal.  If the Patriots could have gotten into the game without cheating then why did they cheat in the first place?  The fact is the Patriots don't have the talent needed to win football games, if they did they would not have cheated.

Do you really not see what I am saying here?  The fact is the Patriots were allowed to cheat to get into the championship game because their owner is a buddy of the officials, so why should I care about this game any more? Victory doesn't mean anything since they should have been playing in the game in the first place.  Do you really think we will not see more cheating from the Patriots next season since no one was punished for this cheating?  Why shouldn't the Patriots cheat now that they know it will result in nothing but good things for them?  Why should the game mean anything to me now that it is clear the NFL wants to see the Patriots win every game and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen?

Did you not just say you think the Patriots will win every game from now on?  They would have lost the game just now had the Seahawks not made a dumb call.  And you openly admit you don't think the NFL made them make the dumb call.  Therefor, even by your own reasoning, the Patriots won that game because of the Seahawks mistake, not because the Patriots cheating.  It must really suck to see the world the way you do.

They should not have been playing that game in the first place.  My point is the NFL was saved by that one interception. if that had not happened they would have made some other call that would have caused the Patriots to win.

Tell me since the Patriots got away with cheating this season why should they not cheat next season.  I wish I lived in your world where crime didn't have to be punished to stop it.  Since you believe that I take it you also believe we should get rid of prisons and the police.

You are focusing on one play that is why you can't see my point because you think the season only consisted of that one play.  Well new flash there is more then one play in a game of football!

The point is the very act of letting them play in the game and not fining them and suspending players for cheating shows that the NFL is fine with it and that for the Patriots cheating pays big time.  That play would have never happened if the NFL had done the right thing, instead they have not done anything and that proves they are rigging the game.  Again look how hard they came down on one guy for gesture no one saw that had no impact on the outcome of the game.  The NFL isn't not doing a thing because they can't they choose not to, so they have given the patriots permission to cheat and announced that they will be allowed to do anything as long as it results in a patriots victory.

Again you have to look beyond one play of the season and look at the bigger picture to see this so I will spell this out one last time in the smallest words I can find.

THE

PATRIOTS

ONLY

GOT

INTO

THIS

GAME

BY

CHEATING.

SO

THAT

PLAY

SHOULD

NEVER

HAVE

HAPPENED.

THE

PATRIOTS

WERE

NEVER

PUNISHED

FOR

CHEATING

SO

THE

NFL

HAS

GIVEN

THEM

PERMISSION

TO

CHEAT

IN

ALL

FUTURE

GAMES.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Really so only their balls tested light and it was 11 out of 12 balls, you think that is a maybe and minor. Also if it didn't give the Patriots an advantage then why was it against the rules in the first place and why did they go to all the trouble of breaking the rules?  They had to go to a lot of trouble to do this so if they could have easily won the games without doing it then why did they do it.  Energy and people tend to follow the path of least resistance, and in this case that path was doing nothing to the balls.  I would say that logically there is only one reason for the Patriots doing what they did. That is it gave them an advantage over other teams and they didn't think they could win without said advantage.

Also do you really think the friendship between the owner of the Patriot and Commisioner of the NFL played no role in this?

Sorry but given that the NFL was so quick to fine a player over a gesture that no one saw then they can't say they are not punishing the Patriots for lack of proof and since the Patriot are the only team that doesn't get punished for breaking the rules well then I think it can be stated that the NFL is rigging the game for them.

Also again since they were not punished in any way and were in fact rewarded why shouldn't they cheat next season?

This is not the first time the Patriots have been caught cheating and the NFL has done nothing or next to nothing about it, the last time they fined them it was pocket change compared to what they made by cheating.

Here are the facts you have a team that has a history of cheating.  The NFL never punishes them for cheating.  The owner of this team is friends with the highest official in the NFL.  The NFL claims that they are not punishing the team for lack of proof yet they punish other teams with far less proof.  I can't be the only one who sees a conflict of interest here.

This combined the NFL's pro wife beating stance has killed any love I have for this game.

Maybe you can claim that you can't control your players off of the game field but when the game it's self becomes a farce then what is the point of watching?

The NFL needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up, right now it is a rotting corpse of corruption that is giving everything that touches it a horrid stink.

A Seahawk pretended to shit on the ball.  I say we kick Washington out of the Union.