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msycamore
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Print variations in '77 Star Wars
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28-Jan-2015, 12:31 AM

TServo2049 said:

Well, the cement must not have stayed clear for very long - the PAL 35mm telecine bootleg of Empire that VideoCollector obtained a few years back had the same kind of yellowish cement gunk on at least one splice. And that was from a first-run UK theatrical print. (-1 made mention of having to crop out glue from the grind house transfer, I assume their prints are also first-run?)

I guess it was just something not meant to be noticed and usually cropped out in projection.

Also, I have read that A roll/B roll were printed from the negative by printing the A roll (with the slugs in between coming out as black), then printing the B roll onto the same film, exposing the B-roll shots on the black sections between the A roll shots. I can't find anything about interpositives being made in pieces and glued together.

If the negative was A/B, that would mean the yellow blobs are printed in, but that doesn't make sense. For one thing, it would mean the cement was actually light bluish-gray, which seems odd. More importantly, it wouldn't explain why different sources made at different times have different marks. They wouldn't be ungluing and regluing the negative multiple times, if the splices are printed in from negative then only the shots which were replacements would have different splice marks. The more I think about it, the more confused I get...

Yeah, the splicing glue on ESB seem to be fairly consistent on all prints I've seen, including the 1997 Special Edition. From what I've seen of -1's ESB it has the same old glue seen on other prints like the JSC and GOUT.

Yes, Star Wars is A-B rolled but the way I understand it the "checkerboard technique" isn't really needed or used for 35mm, see: https://books.google.se/books?id=fR--7yVROI4C&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=invisible+splices+a-b+rolled&source=bl&ots=rogbd2dNxv&sig=ZCT6gmo38ZkbT1sVSAUPIUqJ94o&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=UXDIVPirBujMygOho4KQAw&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=invisible%20splices%20a-b%20rolled&f=false But when you look at the glue frames that cover half of the frame in certain prints of SW and ESB you begin to wonder...