The Dark Knight Trilogy - Theatrical Preservation. (* unfinished project *) — Page 2

I think most of the pics of 35mm or 70mm/15 look more like the prologues colors then TDK's blu-ray:

Looks like a green tint with a little yellow thrown in.

budwhite said:

I think there was lenghty threads on avsforum for both Dark knight movies about the color etc

 Is it the Thread already linked to earlier?

CSchmidlapp said:

budwhite said:

I think there was lenghty threads on avsforum for both Dark knight movies about the color etc

 Is it the Thread already linked to earlier?

 I do believe so. There might be another thread as well. Can't really remember

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

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Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

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The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

Youtube video blocked already, damn

CSchmidlapp said:

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

http://youtu.be/GFgcxiL_rd0

Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

http://youtu.be/4NMkwWUN1mY

The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

 Might wanna turn expanded color space and superwhite on on the ps3.

DoomBot said:

Youtube video blocked already, damn

 Damn, will look for alternatives later and re-link.

Anybody know any that are good and HD?

Vimeo is an option but has a upload cap on free acounts.

jero32 said:

CSchmidlapp said:

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

http://youtu.be/GFgcxiL_rd0

Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

http://youtu.be/4NMkwWUN1mY

The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

 Might wanna turn expanded color space and superwhite on on the ps3.

 Cheers.

CSchmidlapp said:

DoomBot said:

Youtube video blocked already, damn

 Damn, will look for alternatives later and re-link.

Anybody know any that are good and HD?

Vimeo is an option but has a upload cap on free acounts.

 Try dailymotion like the Team Negative guys. I'm really excited to see the results.

I've never heard of RE vision but now you have my curiosity. How well did it work color matching?

PDB said:

CSchmidlapp said:

DoomBot said:

Youtube video blocked already, damn

 Damn, will look for alternatives later and re-link.

Anybody know any that are good and HD?

Vimeo is an option but has a upload cap on free acounts.

 Try dailymotion like the Team Negative guys. I'm really excited to see the results.

I've never heard of RE vision but now you have my curiosity. How well did it work color matching?

It's pretty close for shots that match exactly. The problem lies with the blu ray as it's clipped in the Light and Dark areas, and having to compensate for that can be tricky.

I did manage to match some of the shots by eye, but the colour pallet is so different! Its a correct a shot environment at a time type. This match plug in saved me alot of time. 

Ill look at Dailymotion.

CSchmidlapp said:

jero32 said:

CSchmidlapp said:

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

http://youtu.be/GFgcxiL_rd0

Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

http://youtu.be/4NMkwWUN1mY

The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

 Might wanna turn expanded color space and superwhite on on the ps3.

 Cheers.

 Both we're turned on, I did think I had already done this.

Perhaps its clipping because the clips are not legal levels (brightness, colour)?

CSchmidlapp said:

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

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Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

DELETED

The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

 Here are the examples.

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Ive stitched them both together, so its the first 15mins of the film.

EDIT: And more problems!! It will not let me confirm my account.

EDIT2: Dailymotion has taken me to the point where I want to through my computer out of the window. Looking for other alternatives.

Maybe just upload small clips that we can download instead.

CSchmidlapp said:

CSchmidlapp said:

Here are some colour correction tests Ive been playing around with very quick.
First Ive cleaned up the Edge Enhancement with a AVIsynth plug in called BlindDeHalo3 on default settings.
I rendered to a 1920x1080p 4:2:2 UT loss-less codec .avi
I'm editing in Adobe Premiere and used a plugin called RE Match from RE Vision, then doing the best i can to match the source with a bit of secondary colour correction.
I used the Trailers and T.V spots as source's, and where there was not a shot for the scene, I picked a similar environment.
It is a work in progress and just a proof of concept.

DELETED

Whats interesting is it's adding in what many restorations try to correct a huge green tint! the 35mm screen shots (post 26), seem to back this up that this is so.
This video was corrected from a still frame, here is the prologue as I could match every frame.

DELETED

The original Blu ray is clipped in the Dark and Light areas, so any correction is not going to be perfect.

Ive ordered the Ultimate Box-set for the IMAX scenes on Disc 6. it also contains a more recent documentary produced for this release and should contain clips from the TDK, which will be worth a look see.

Just a side note the clips look better (A lot more detail) on my P.C than playing on my PS3 (Crushed Blacks, to much contrast.) through the same T.V.

 Here are the examples.

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Ive stitched them both together, so its the first 15mins of the film.

EDIT: And more problems!! It will not let me confirm my account.

EDIT2: Dailymotion has taken me to the point where I want to through my computer out of the window. Looking for other alternatives.

 It should be working now.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2f82ep_cctest1-2_tech

I uploaded as 720p because it would not take 1080p.

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

CSchmidlapp said:

EDIT2: Dailymotion has taken me to the point where I want to through my computer out of the window. Looking for other alternatives.

DON'T!!! Until you finished the project, at least... (^^,)

 Hahahaha Don't worry it was only a figure of speech ;)

DoomBot said:

Maybe just upload small clips that we can download instead.

I don't think we're allowed to post downloadable links as its against forum rules. 

Looks pretty damn good, Commodore. I think you got it pretty dead on there.

I saw TDK in digital and the print was just magnificent, absolutely astonishing PQ and colors.

The Blu-ray is the worst piece of shit I have ever seen.

The colour-correction from that video CSchidmlapp looks the best I've seen it look since its theatrical run. Good job on that. Could you possibly do a comparison clip with the apple trailer as well?

rockin said:

The colour-correction from that video CSchidmlapp looks the best I've seen it look since its theatrical run. Good job on that. Could you possibly do a comparison clip with the apple trailer as well?

Great. I can not remember how it looked to be honest, I was really stuck into the film.

I liked the bluray when it came out also, but on closer inspection boy does it have lots of problems! What is even more anoying all of the extra material on the disc looks great!

I corrected from small clips / stills from the trailers available on disc 2 of the u.k blu of Dark knight (I beliere they are the same as the released apple trailers), and there are inconsistency's with with the same shots over all the Advertising Material

I will do more comparison's at some point, im waiting for my Ultimate Box Set to arrive so I have every bit of material I can get my hands on before the proper work begins.

Ive posted a side by side comparison of the Test colour corrected version and the Blu over at FanRes. Its a download as eveywhere keep's copyright flaging it.

budwhite said:

What's the word on Interstellar on BD? I would presume that it also going to have shifting aspect ratios

 OT but it is now confirmed that Interstellar will have shifting ratios
, and that was almost half the film I guess

That comparison clip looks very promising, CSchmidlapp. Would you consider making both 2.40:1 and shifting aspect ratio releases?

Beber said:

That comparison clip looks very promising, CSchmidlapp. Would you consider making both 2.40:1 and shifting aspect ratio releases?

Great, thanks for the feedback.

I will consider making both, as I was planning on doing the 2:35:1 re matte after the colour correction. Will look at that closer to completion.