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Post #746867

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Ronster
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Flaws, plotholes, and "could-have-been-done-betters" in the OT (alternate plot points especially welcome)
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15-Jan-2015, 8:18 AM

Empire Strikes Back is by far the worst of the OT when it comes to plot holes and inconsistent things and shuffled up scenes.

ANH & ROTJ flow far better in terms of narrative and especially most of all action. Irwin Kershner was not an action director but he really got the characters to shine.

Empire although it is perhaps the best OT film in some respects it is also the worst in some respects.

Ok check these in Empire.

Probe Droid Crashes and then the same crash happens again after the probe droid has emerged.

Han changes clothes again and again in Echo base short spaces of time (shuffled up scenes again)

3PO teleports between command center and hanger bay then back to command center (shuffled up scenes again)

Luke crashes in his speeder and runs after an AT-AT on a raging battlefield  for a couple of minutes and manages to catch up with it so he can blow it up. (shuffled up scenes again)

Luke then takes a casual stroll across the battlefield back to echo base.

Luke flys away from Hoth and the Empire are not there even though they have been bombing the planet and destroying the rebel base.

The escape from Echo base on the millenium falcon has many shuffled up scenes also.

Most of the mess is in the first third of the film then it settles down and then we come to the whole problem of as has already been mention the trip to Bespin and how long was Luke on Dagobah because there was a huge amount of training scenes that were not finished. and there is nothing to help us feel that time has even passed at this point people are right to think Luke spent longer on Dagobah the shots were never completed or put in the film.

we then get the scene of Luke arriving on Bespin pushed to far back into the film because of all the missing scenes.

Various action scenes comprise of random shots of stormtroopers in places that change location from shot to shot in terms of orientation and what characters should also see compared to what we saw previously from their POV.

This is what happens when it is an unfinished film with lots of missing shots in it.

Empire is a mess but it is still a great film but it is a real mess.