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I feel lucky I saw a beat up print of The Shining several years back, as what I saw last fall was a DCP with the same color issue as the Blu Ray.

Are we going to have to scrounge up Kubrick prints now?

Where were you in '77?

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Mondess122 said:

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Mondess122 said:

Black Christmas (1974)- Some people argue day and night about what the first slasher film is...and I think it's this one. It's not as well made as something like Halloween, but it's also much more stylish and moody than Friday the 13th.

I'd disagree with you in regards to Halloween. I think Black Christmas is a much more engaging film with more interesting characters and a far scarier murderer.

I do agree with your point on Friday the 13th, though. Of course, the entire Friday the 13th franchise is an exercise in derivative mediocrity, so it's hard not to.

If we're talking about the main character, then yes; the side characters are on the same level for me. The ones in Black Christmas are more realistic and generally less stupid, though. As for the killers, they're different kinds of scary. I was more talking about the films on a technical level; Halloween has the advantage in cinematography by having Dean Cundey behind the camera, and I think John Carpenter perfected the 'killer POV' introduced by Bob Clark. And let's not forget that pulsing theme; that scene where Loomis gets to the insane asylum and the music kicks in still gives me some shivers.

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Granted I don't watch a lot of slasher films so i am not an expert but I always thought psycho was the first slasher film since it was a horror film that was more bloody then anything made up to that point and Norman Bates killed woman with a knife.  Then again I am not an expert.  i will have to track down Black Christmas and give it a shot.

 A lot of people say that, but it doesn't really fit with the slashers of the 1980s. I think it was Black Christmas that got the ball rolling for the genre as we know it, considering that Carpenter was obviously inspired by that film's opening. Black Christmas does have a lot of the elements that later slasher films would imitate (except not from this film, but from Halloween, which was inspired by Black Christmas); POV shot from the killer, characters get killed one by one in usually one location, the killer uses a knife (or a sharp object) and the killer stalks his victims. Not that these elements weren't used before, but Black Christmas was the first to use them all together. James Rolfe made a pretty good video about it:

http://cinemassacre.com/2009/12/17/black-christmas/

 Where does Silent Night, Bloody Night (1972) fit in. It was shot in '72 and released in '74, some seven months before Black Christmas. I've never seen it but I've heard it pronounced as the first slasher, establishing many of the tropes of the genre.

Coincidentally, apparently it was announced just three days ago that it will be getting a direct sequel set 40 years later.

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Had an evening at the charming AFI theater and I recommend both movies:

Birdman - Michael Keating looks like he's having fun. Not a very grounded movie which makes it feel light for a movie that seems like it is trying to be deep. I like that. I'm not wild about the ending, which isn't bad but didn't really do anything.

The Imitation Game - Engaging as DominicCobb says. Keira Knightley doesn't serve much of a purpose which is only aggravated by how absent she is from the movie. I'd rather watch Cumberbatch anyway... [awkward segue]... The spotlight is swiveled to political messaging a bit heavy-handedly in a way that detracts from the focus of the movie, particularly at the end in a postscript, but I don't think many viewers will notice or care. Some creative liberties are easily forgiven, like the name of his machine which serves to highlight his personal struggle.

The blue elephant in the room.

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The Blob (1988)

Ethan Hawke looks weird with long hair -- kinda like '90s Michael Jackson but without the bad plastic surgery.

7/10

Careful (1992)

The moral of this story: Don't date rape your mother. If you do, you're liable to burn your lips with a hot coal, cut the fingers of your left hand off with a pair of pruning shears, and then commit suicide by throwing yourself off a mountain, thus setting about a series of unfortunate events which will culminate with the death of everyone in your family save a single, solitary brother. 

8/10

Tower of London (1962)

Though I love B&W cinematography, I feel that Roger Corman's films look best when shot in colour; there's just so much he can do visually with a full palette of bright, bold colour to work with. As a consequence, this movie is pretty drab compared to his later, better films.

Still, there is Vincent Price as Richard III. While not his best performance, he still breathes plenty of hammy life into this picture, elevating it above what it would have been without his presence. 

8/10

Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933)

If it hadn't been for Glenda Farrell's performance and the fact that the film was shot in two-colour Technicolor, I probably would have found Mystery of the Wax Museum plainly average. As it is, though, Farrell steals every scene she's in, and I just love the look of two-colour Technicolor.

7/10

Tower of London (1939)

I expected to like this movie more than I did. Unfortunately, I didn't.

I found the story hard to follow in the first half of the film, and Boris Karloff -- who is the only reason why I wanted to watch the movie in the first place -- didn't have very much screentime, leaving me disinterested in pretty much the rest of the proceedings. And that ending -- I don't think I've ever seen an anticlimax that anticlimactic before in my life.

6/10

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Mrebo said:

Had an evening at the charming AFI theater and I recommend both movies:

Birdman - Michael Keating looks like he's having fun. Not a very grounded movie which makes it feel light for a movie that seems like it is trying to be deep. I like that. I'm not wild about the ending, which isn't bad but didn't really do anything.

The Imitation Game - Engaging as DominicCobb says. Keira Knightley doesn't serve much of a purpose which is only aggravated by how absent she is from the movie. I'd rather watch Cumberbatch anyway... [awkward segue]... The spotlight is swiveled to political messaging a bit heavy-handedly in a way that detracts from the focus of the movie, particularly at the end in a postscript, but I don't think many viewers will notice or care. Some creative liberties are easily forgiven, like the name of his machine which serves to highlight his personal struggle.

'Birdman' was a lot of fun but as you say the ending was a bit "Shrug?". Ending on the stage or at the window would have had more impact IMO. Just as I decided to see 'The Imitation Game' my local cinema stopped showing it, sigh.

FYI: For anybody thinking of seeing the new Hawking movie and also wanting to see another superb Cumberbatch performance then check out 2004's BBC drama 'Hawking', to see Benedict school Eddie Redmayne in how to play the part. It's on youtube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ytm34YVCU

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Everything or Nothing (2012)  8/10

If you have seen all of the Bond film DVD extras, then there is really nothing new here information wise.  This is a condensed version of the history of Bond on the screen. What was new and reveling to these Bond documentaries, was the more in depth story about two subjects that are avoided and glossed over in passed 007 documentaries.  Kevin McClory's claim of ownership over "Thunderball", and the falling out between Connery and his producers.

   

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Dr. Jones and the Temple of Doom

You call him Indiana! 

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Legend of Hell House - Pretty great haunted house flick. Basically the biggest inspiration for Edgar Wright's DON'T fake trailer in Grindhouse. Oozes with style and mood, brilliantly directed and shot. Characters are a bit iffy, but luckily the performances are pretty good. Roddy McDowall in particular is awesome. 

7.7 out of 10 possessed black cats. 

Darkman - A better title would've been Clicheman, because it is just that: cliched. Really, really cliched. Maybe its cliches weren't cliched yet when it was released, but that goes to show you how dated it is. The greenscreen effects don't hold up at all either. It's entertaining though, mostly thanks to Liam Neeson's performance and some of his lines ("Take the f*cking elephant!") and Sam Raimi's direction. 

6 out of 10 Bruce Campbell synthetic masks.

Guardians of the Galaxy - Just as good as last time...maybe even better. The villain didn't bother me as much anymore and its message seemed stronger than last time; it really is solid escapism. 

8.1 out of 10 'finger to the throat' metaphores.

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Mondess122 said:


Guardians of the Galaxy - Just as good as last time...maybe even better. The villain didn't bother me as much anymore and its message seemed stronger than last time; it really is solid escapism. 

8.1 out of 10 'finger to the throat' metaphores.

 You're a tough reviewer.

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Yeah, I usually don't use killing metaphores for my ratings. Sorry.

Guardians 's genuinely great stuff, Hobbitboy.

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Tower of London (1962)

Though I love B&W cinematography, I feel that Roger Corman's films look best when shot in colour; there's just so much he can do visually with a full palette of bright, bold colour to work with. As a consequence, this movie is pretty drab compared to his later, better films.

Still, there is Vincent Price as Richard III. While not his best performance, he still breathes plenty of hammy life into this picture, elevating it above what it would have been without his presence. 

8/10

Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933)

If it hadn't been for Glenda Farrell's performance and the fact that the film was shot in two-colour Technicolor, I probably would have found Mystery of the Wax Museum plainly average. As it is, though, Farrell steals every scene she's in, and I just love the look of two-colour Technicolor.

7/10

Tower of London (1939)

I expected to like this movie more than I did. Unfortunately, I didn't.

I found the story hard to follow in the first half of the film, and Boris Karloff -- who is the only reason why I wanted to watch the movie in the first place -- didn't have very much screentime, leaving me disinterested in pretty much the rest of the proceedings. And that ending -- I don't think I've ever seen an anticlimax that anticlimactic before in my life.

6/10

 ToL works better in the '39 version because Rathbone gorges on scenery and Vincent has arguably a better time in the smaller role. The Corman film somehow drags more than this.

MOTWM is 500,000 times the film House of Wax could ever be. The remake only has VP as a positive, and Atwill outshines even Vincent because the character was far better written. Better performances, better atmosphere, better direction, tighter plot, less unnecessary exposition, 30's charm.

Now if only WB would actually restore the original two-strip colors from LD.

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Everything or Nothing (2012)  8/10

If you have seen all of the Bond film DVD extras, then there is really nothing new here information wise.

Indeed and it's far too short. No one ever discusses that Connery's concerns began over money and were never resolved. Nor do they get very much candid material as they should do. Nor do they adequately discuss the 70's breaking of the partnership, nor the eventual loss of creative team members. The best moments were with Lazenby and especially Dalton, who perfectly summed up his entire tenure in one soundbite.

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Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

Nothing like going to a screening which supplies you with actual coconuts.

I’m just here because I’m driving tonight.

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Mondess122 said:

Yeah, I usually don't use killing metaphores for my ratings. Sorry.

Guardians 's genuinely great stuff, Hobbitboy.

 I meant that you gave it a glowing review, and then just a mere 8.1/10.

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People brought their own coconuts the last time I saw it on the big screen. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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TV's Frink said:

Mondess122 said:

Yeah, I usually don't use killing metaphores for my ratings. Sorry.

Guardians 's genuinely great stuff, Hobbitboy.

 I meant that you gave it a glowing review, and then just a mere 8.1/10.

Who knew eight was such a low number on a ten-scale voting system ... 

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^^^^I like that it was an 8.1 rating.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

TV's Frink said:

Mondess122 said:

Yeah, I usually don't use killing metaphores for my ratings. Sorry.

Guardians 's genuinely great stuff, Hobbitboy.

 I meant that you gave it a glowing review, and then just a mere 8.1/10.

Who knew eight was such a low number on a ten-scale voting system ... 

 It is according to gaming magazines and websites that are afraid of losing ads if publishers don't like their reviews:)

Yeah I would say eight is a fair rating, I liked it a lot more then that but hey that was me.  Eight should be a high rating.

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Ah, I see. 8.1 is still really good, although - correct me if I'm wrong - Frink thought it was 'low' compared to the non-stop praise it has been getting so far, especially on this site. Either that, or I'm bad at detecting sarcasm. Or neither.

And it's not that my relatively tiny review of it encapsulates all my thoughts on (i.e. problems with) the film, nor do I give films an automatic 10/10 solely based on entertainment value (if you've ever been on Letterboxd then you know what I mean). It's a great summer blockbuster, but it's far from perfect (...at least, y'know, that's like, my opinion, man).

With that said... RoboCop (1987) - Classic. Classic, classic, classic. It might even hold up better now than it did in the 80s, if you compare the technology in the film and the technology now. Kurtwood Smith as Clarence Boddicker is still one of my favorite villains of all time, and he's infinitely quotable. Very entertaining and pretty darn smart, too.

9.5 out of 10 breaking glass windows.

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TV's Frink said:

It's not low, but...ah never mind.

 

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TV's Frink said:

Mondess122 said:


Guardians of the Galaxy - Just as good as last time...maybe even better. The villain didn't bother me as much anymore and its message seemed stronger than last time; it really is solid escapism. 

8.1 out of 10 'finger to the throat' metaphores.

 <snip>

I meant that you gave it a glowing review, and then just a mere 8.1/10.

 I wouldn't call that review glowing.

Glowing = full of enthusiastic praise.

His review = Good movie, villain was less annoying, solid fun.

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TV's Frink said:

TV's Frink said:

It's not low, but...ah never mind.

 

 

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Mondess122 said:

So where exactly is "ah never mind" between 0 and 10? ;)

Any one of an infinite amount of decimal numbers in between any two whole numbers below 6.